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DLSS performs better because it blurs frames temporally, basically rendering less frames for parts of the image. Moving parts of scenes look super blurry, even at short distances. Its often less effective than txaa / other temporal aa types at removing aliasing.


Show the evidence cause what you say doesn't make sense
 
Show the evidence cause what you say doesn't make sense
Most people are probably still think about the original DLSS implementation.

Battlefield V DLSS Tested: Overpromised, Underdelivered

There is an obvious loss of quality there.

It's improved with DLSS 2.0 but it's still on a per game basis - if your game doesn't get updated then you're **** out of luck, which is why I'd rather go for better raster perf vs DLSS cheating.
 
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Most people are probably still think about the original DLSS implementation.

Battlefield V DLSS Tested: Overpromised, Underdelivered

There is an obvious loss of quality there.

It's improved with DLSS 2.0 but it's still on a per game basis - if your game doesn't get updated then you're **** out of luck, which is why I'd rather go for better raster perf vs DLSS cheating.

Completely pointless example seeing as it's DLSS 1.0 which was pretty rough. It's good enough for my eyeballs, Watchdogs, Metro etc I've toggling DLSS on and off and I honestly cant see the difference. For me it's a game changer. Sure you can post up side by side comparison still shots
of a close up of a wall etc but in game you just dont see the compromises if there are any. Too be honest there's no point arguing. Those crapping on DLSS will fall silent when there's a viable AMD alternative.
 
No one will say anything if it is not compared with native resolution. But when we talk about a card performance in 4k and someone comes and tells us that his card can do 4k 2 times better because it scales a lower resolution to 4k and he is happy with it, of course we have something against that. Because it is not the same thing as native rendering. If you are happy with DLSS then good for you. Someone else can see no difference between 1440p and 4k, should we accept it is the same thing since he is happy with 1440p?
DLSS exists because the cards are not good enough to render the games at native resolution. Again, if you are happy with the result, then good for you. Have fun!
 
No one will say anything if it is not compared with native resolution. But when we talk about a card performance in 4k and someone comes and tells us that his card can do 4k 2 times better because it scales a lower resolution to 4k and he is happy with it, of course we have something against that. Because it is not the same thing as native rendering. If you are happy with DLSS then good for you. Someone else can see no difference between 1440p and 4k, should we accept it is the same thing since he is happy with 1440p?
DLSS exists because the cards are not good enough to render the games at native resolution. Again, if you are happy with the result, then good for you. Have fun!
Pretty much the situation right there. If you are spending $500+ for a card that suppose to be able to do 4k/1440p yet still needs dlss something is wrong with why you are buying the card.
 
Pretty much the situation right there. If you are spending $500+ for a card that suppose to be able to do 4k/1440p yet still needs dlss something is wrong with why you are buying the card.

In 2020 you're paying $500 for 1080p cards

deal with it

by the way tsmc is increasing its wafer price by 40% next year

deal with it
 
In 2020 you're paying $500 for 1080p cards

deal with it

by the way tsmc is increasing its wafer price by 40% next year

deal with it
We don't have to deal with it, we can boycott with attitude like yours it sno wonder GPU vendors and retailers get away with the siy increases.
Maybe you will be happy when everyone goes to console instead and pc is left by the main stream due to elite pricing, thing will only get worse and not better
 
We don't have to deal with it, we can boycott with attitude like yours it sno wonder GPU vendors and retailers get away with the siy increases.
Maybe you will be happy when everyone goes to console instead and pc is left by the main stream due to elite pricing, thing will only get worse and not better
Well said.

It's not hard to break through the thin covered veil to see the obvious truth. As idle words are spouted out in random admissions.

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It seems quite a few reviewers were sent the Radeon EK kit and after a week not one of them released a review using it.
I can imagine the performance uplift water cooling both the 6800xt and Zen 3 CPU.
 
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In 2020 you're paying $500 for 1080p cards

deal with it

by the way tsmc is increasing its wafer price by 40% next year

deal with it

You are welcome to just get screwed if you wish, but I don't have to buy anything.

A $700+/- 3080 is worth the money and a $650 6800XT is also something I'm willing to buy. I might even spend a little extra on better/quieter coolers or other little features. There are a LOT of overpriced 3090's on the jungle site right now and I don't have to "deal with" any of it. At those prices, it's actually "NO DEAL" and it's probably why they remain so plentiful.
 



It seems quite a few reviewers were sent the Radeon EK kit and after a week not one of them released a review using it.
I can imagine the performance uplift water cooling both the 6800xt and Zen 3 CPU.
Can't be that great if no one is rushing to tell us how good it is and how much extra performance you can squeeze out of it. I mean even with the red devil cards from reviews, it's shown that with high mhz overclocks does not translate to higher fps. Bitwit did one i watched recently and the 2600-2700mhz overclocks you only see around 5-10fps extra (if you're lucky) in performance gains, i really expected more tbh.
 



It seems quite a few reviewers were sent the Radeon EK kit and after a week not one of them released a review using it.
I can imagine the performance uplift water cooling both the 6800xt and Zen 3 CPU.


Cause reviewers know the truth - that there is little difference with water when AMD has put a limit on top clock speed. 6800xt on LN2 only does 2.8ghz, and air does 2.75ghz... so where does that leave water.

water cooling is becoming more and more pointless
 
Can't be that great if no one is rushing to tell us how good it is and how much extra performance you can squeeze out of it. I mean even with the red devil cards from reviews, it's shown that with high mhz overclocks does not translate to higher fps. Bitwit did one i watched recently and the 2600-2700mhz overclocks you only see around 5-10fps extra (if you're lucky) in performance gains, i really expected more tbh.

Cause reviewers know the truth - that there is little difference with water when AMD has put a limit on top clock speed. 6800xt on LN2 only does 2.8ghz, and air does 2.75ghz... so where does that leave water.

water cooling is becoming more and more pointless
This is an entire kit though. That's a GPU and CPU WB. the GPU WB is for the reference board for 6800/6800xt. Which is generally overbuilt. You don't have any idea what the performance is under water under those conditions. As it hasn't been conducted as of yet. If it has by all means link me to a 6000/Zen 3 review OC'd under watercooling conditions because I've not found it yet.

I'm interested because I would consider going reference design now there is a EKWB for it over a Nitro+ or a RD. As those usually don't come with WB from EK.

I'm also curious how well the cpu would clock under water cooling as well and how that would effect overall performance. There is a lot information to be gained with such a review that I want to see.

Therefore, the only real truth is that it hasn't been done. LOL
:D
 
Cause reviewers know the truth - that there is little difference with water when AMD has put a limit on top clock speed. 6800xt on LN2 only does 2.8ghz, and air does 2.75ghz... so where does that leave water.

water cooling is becoming more and more pointless

"Only does"

Dam wasn't long ago hitting over 1.8 or 2.0 was a far cry now hitting close to 3.0ghz and its labed only

Come on give some credits where its due RDNA2 is very power efficient.
 
"Only does"

Dam wasn't long ago hitting over 1.8 or 2.0 was a far cry now hitting close to 3.0ghz and its labed only

Come on give some credits where its due RDNA2 is very power efficient.
He's triggered and grumply upset. Just have a laugh at him like I'm doing. As its obvious what he's doing. :D

If these results are anything to go by I would think WC both the CPU/GPU would yield better results.

 
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He's triggered and grumply upset. Just have a laugh at him like I'm doing. As its obvious what he's doing. :D

If these results are anything to go by I would think WC both the CPU/GPU would yield better results.

The difference in power draw is quite remarkable!

remember, that’s only GPU power too. Add on the power draw of GDDRX6 on top of that too.
 
The difference in power draw is quite remarkable!

remember, that’s only GPU power too. Add on the power draw of GDDRX6 on top of that too.
That's what makes using a watercooling mint!


Even with Nitro+ and RD power draw is far lower then the 3080 reference once both RDNA 2 and Amper are OC.

Right now, I'm eyeing the OC results as a whole. And it looks like 6800xt is a pure winner (with a Zen 3 PC setup). And we haven't even gotten to the 6900xt yet either.

LOL 3080 has almost the same power draw as a 3090 when OC'd.
:D
 
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