The time came

It's definitely time to break this out:

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[TW]Fox;18979278 said:
Thats the odd thing - its what he already has. He has a Focus 1.6 for normal stuff and a Clio for when he wants to go for a hoon. Infact in the multiple 10+ page threads we've had before he was at pains to explain that the 'second car' was purely for fun and purely for thrashing around.

Just makes no sense, but then again, it never does.


Indeed. I cant see how any half decent performance car will be any different for him given what he wants from the car. Very odd tbh.
 
This thread confuses me so damn much. I was under the impression Mikeihow bought this because it was what he wanted it for, the exact car for the job. But now it isn't because it only does what he wanted it to do... my brain hurts. :(
 
[TW]Fox;18979250 said:
I didn't find the 182 to be problematic on crap roads - the ride is quite compliant for a 'sporting' car, helped by the reasonably small wheels.

When you are in normal car mode it is simply a Renault Clio - I disliked it because of this but it was hardly crap at being a normal car.

Where did you drive it?

The "small" wheels don't help much when it still has low profile tyres - in fact it only has around 2mm more sidewall than my ST did ffs.

Are you really disputing this based on a quick test drive? Having owned two other cars in a similar class, I can categorically state that the Clio is by far the worst in terms of comfort and compliance on anything short of a near perfect surface.

I can only suggest that either you've made that up to support the argument, or you've driven some really crap cars by comparison.

This thread confuses me so damn much. I was under the impression Mikeihow bought this because it was what he wanted it for, the exact car for the job. But now it isn't because it only does what he wanted it to do... my brain hurts. :(

If I wanted a car that was purely for being driven on the boil whenever it is driven, I'd have bought something "7". I know it's hard to comprehend, but I do, on occasion need to just go somewhere you know....
 
Someone should really lock this thread before we get another 10 pages of MikeHiow and Fox fighting off their homosexual fantasies for one another.

As funny as it sometimes is, just get a room :p
 
But you've got your 1.6 Focus for that?

And come on, i think you might be over exaggerating how bad the ride is - you make it sound like it's some kind of racing car with absolute rock hard suspension.
 
You make it sound like I have exclusive use of both cars? The OH has the Focus most of the time, unless we're doing something together obviously.

I think you underestimate how bad our roads are.
 
Where did you drive it?


Are you really disputing this based on a quick test drive? Having owned two other cars in a similar class, I can categorically state that the Clio is by far the worst in terms of comfort and compliance on anything short of a near perfect surface.


Where did you drive it? Surely if it was that bad you would have known this from any test drive that you did?
Surely you would have tested it on similar sort of roads to what you expect to drive on during ownership?

Hmmm
 
You make it sound like I have exclusive use of both cars? The OH has the Focus most of the time, unless we're doing something together obviously.

I think you underestimate how bad our roads are.

I've been to IOW a few times, all over the island. Can't say it was a problem in the 330d (which my wife hates being in on normal roads atm due to suspension).
 
It was fine on the test drive - roads are generally better pretty much anywhere on the mainland, it was also exciting driving my potential new car and I was more concerned about looking out for problems really.

In fact, it was mostly fine during that initial "honey moon" period, but you'll notice that in my initial write-up that I still managed to find it a little tedious then.

Now? I have a little more money to play with, and can have just as much fun when hooning but with more compliance, and enjoy more comfort when I'm not hooning, just by changing cars.
 
I've been to IOW a few times, all over the island. Can't say it was a problem in the 330d (which my wife hates being in on normal roads atm due to suspension).

Well, you were driving a Diesel BMW Saloon, and my issues lie with a shoebox french hatchback.....

They are mostly fine in the Focus - in fact, there are many places I can actually go faster in the Focus! That doesn't detract from the issues I experience in the Clio though.
 
And come on, i think you might be over exaggerating how bad the ride is - you make it sound like it's some kind of racing car with absolute rock hard suspension.

You rang ? :)

I'm also confused, you surely have the 1.6 focus to cruise around in and now want something sporty but a little more refined?

Will you be commuting in this new car across the vast 15mile across IOW or will you be coming over to the mainland?
 
Why do I have to repeat myself so much? If you're going to argue, at least read the ****ing thread :/

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MikeHiow said:
You make it sound like I have exclusive use of both cars? The OH has the Focus most of the time, unless we're doing something together obviously.

Why has going to the Mainland got anything to do with it?
 
For those of you wanting a genuine verdict on RS Clios, I drove a 172 70 miles a day on A and B roads across Wiltshire, and it was no less comfortable than the Mondeo it replace. Infact it was a nicer place to be with leather and climate and a CD player, but it also had the added benefit of being able to pull off that cheeky overtake, or be ragged when you got that lucky few minutes of clear road on the commute.

Mikes opinion that they are 'absolutely **** on anything other than a completely smooth surface' is simply wrong. Infact, most owners search for ways to stiffen up the suspension as they find it to soft for the kind of car it is.

But its the fact he bought a fun sporty car to be a fun sporty car, and now is selling the fun sporty car because its to much like a fun sporty car and he wants something less fun and sporty than the fun and sporty car he bought when he was looking for spun and forty cars only 2 months ago that confuses me :confused:

Why not buy another Focus 1.6? And Mike, what regular autotest do you compete in? I like autotesting, and the IoW isn't far from me. Be good to come watch.
 
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Admittedly it's a few years since I've been over on IoW, but the roads then were just exactly the same as at home! So unless our's have been repaired (and they haven't :mad:) and IoW's haven't I don't see it...
 
Just LOL. I think you're blinded by fanboyism right there.

As comfortable as a Mondeo and a better place to be for 70 miles a day, and the cup suspension is too soft?

I don't know what you're smoking or if you're just being an idiot, but really? That's even a bit far fetched for Motors to digest even if it does work against me.

Of course, comfort is completely subjective. I had a discussion with someone a while back who thinks that a DC2 is a comfortable car to travel over 1000 miles in - I don't think I could consider it comfortable for 10.

Most owners probably look to stiffen up the suspension for their blasts along near-perfect A roads, and to let them use slicks/semis on track. Most of these owners do not live on the Isle of Wight where already poor roads have been neglected completely for the last four years.
 
Mikes opinion that they are 'absolutely **** on anything other than a completely smooth surface' is simply wrong. Infact, most owners search for ways to stiffen up the suspension as they find it to soft for the kind of car it is.

I just can't imagine the ride being that bad that within 2 months it has become too much for him. TBH i can't really imagine it's much worse than many other cars out there with sports suspension.

Why not buy another Focus 1.6?

I'm just wondering what he's going to be buying next. Being a car enthusiast, as i imagine Mike is, i can imagine it's probably going to be fast, with low profile tyres and sports suspension.... just like the Clio is.
 
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