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Westyfield2 said:
Admittedly it's a few years since I've been over on IoW, but the roads then were just exactly the same as at home! So unless our's have been repaired (and they haven't :mad:) and IoW's haven't I don't see it...
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Wrong. Perhaps some main roads, depending on which route you take could be considered alright, but these are always congested, especially in the summer when the number of cars on our roads at least triples.
 
Gaygle said:
I just can't imagine the ride being that bad that within 2 months it has become too much for him. TBH i can't really imagine it's much worse than many other cars out there with sports suspension.

I'm just wondering what he's going to be buying next. Being a car enthusiast, as i imagine Mike is, i can imagine it's probably going to be fast, with low profile tyres and sports suspension.... just like the Clio is.
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You seem to forget that I've had a lot of cars already with "sports suspension" and low profile tyres. I'll stick with my own experiences, you can stick to guessing :)

If anyone would like a day trip to the Isle of Wight, I'll quite happily take anyone for a blast - perhaps once you're neck/back/ass aches and you've hit your head on the roof a few times, you'll understand.
 
Sorry Mike, but how do you even manage to do journeys long enough on the IoW to form an opinion that they are totally uncomfortable for any length of time? Do you drive round and round the island or something?

Considering you 'just potter about in it' (your words) I don't see why you feel you need to have a car that glides along on a bed of double cream?
 
MikeHiow said:
Of course, comfort is completely subjective. I had a discussion with someone a while back who thinks that a DC2 is a comfortable car to travel over 1000 miles in - I don't think I could consider it comfortable for 10.
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Prior to getting the 172 I'm fairly certain the DC2 and EK3 were top of your list as your weekend car.

You can't decide what you want from a car, that or you find new reasons for not liking your current cars out of the blue.
 
I don't want a car that "glides along on a bed of double cream" I want a car that I can drive at reasonable pace, but fairly relaxed without it bouncing all over the place, tram lining and generally being excessively uncomfortable.

My Rover Coupe, Calibra, Corrado, VXR, ST and even the RX8 I borrowed (even on PZ suspension!) all managed to fit this criteria just fine.
 
MikeHiow said:
I don't want a car that "glides along on a bed of double cream" I want a car that I can drive at reasonable pace, but fairly relaxed without it bouncing all over the place, tram lining and generally being excessively uncomfortable.

My Rover Coupe, Calibra, Corrado, VXR, ST and even the RX8 I borrowed (even on PZ suspension!) all managed to fit this criteria just fine.
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So with all that experience, why did you buy a 182 Cup?
 
MikeHiow said:
Well, you were driving a Diesel BMW Saloon, and my issues lie with a shoebox french hatchback.....
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A BMW that has, in my wifes opinion (and actually quite a few peoples that I remember), quite harsh suspension for the type of car that it is.
So comparing the mainland to IOW (was last there less than a year ago) and finding the IOW fine, was my point. Not a comparison between a performance car and a saloon.

Surely when testing it you should have thought about how it drove, as thats what you wanted it for. Maybe with your next purchase you will have a good think about what the car is and how it will feel on your roads.
 
Skeeter said:
Looks like Mike wasn't to optimistic, theres another 54 plate 182 on ClioSport for sale for £3500...

Oh no, never mind, it has 44,000 miles on it and the cambelt was fitted by a Renault garage. :)
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Oh wait, you mean the de-badged non-cup for sale that says "Belts done last year by the garage I got the car from", the car that needs a new bumper, has a headlight bracket broken and a dent in the bonnet following an accident, no mention of service history, a chavvy exhaust but the owner doesn't know what it is, polish stains all over the textured plastic trims, tacky and badly painted black wheels, a "900W sub and amp m8", suspiciously looking like it has 4 **** tyres fitted and the tax is just about to run out, oh, and the fact the vendor had already taken it off sale at the time you posted?

That looks like a REALLY good buy :rolleyes:

But it's alright, because the odometer says 44,000......

It's slightly ironic isn't it, how you talk about lying, and then continue to accuse me of lying about my experiences with the Clio, yet you manage to omit such crucial bits of information from your post.

Skeeter said:
So with all that experience, why did you buy a 182 Cup?
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A mixture of people telling me they are good and one coming up cheap.


Morba said:
A BMW that has, in my wifes opinion (and actually quite a few peoples that I remember), quite harsh suspension for the type of car that it is.
So comparing the mainland to IOW (was last there less than a year ago) and finding the IOW fine, was my point. Not a comparison between a performance car and a saloon.
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Where did you go on the Isle of Wight? You are wrong, but perhaps the places you visited will give some indication to the routes you took.
 
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MikeHiow said:
Where did you go on the Isle of Wight? You are wrong, but perhaps the places you visited will give some indication to the routes you took.
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Well, we were staying on the east side of the island for 5 nights. Given the island is small, we got to drive around quite a lot of it just to go to places.. we didnt just get off the ferry and stay close to the exit ramp :p
 
Can we just skip ahead to the conclusion of this mini investigation where you declare he drove on the wrong roads regardless of where he says he went?
 
we visited the whole island! places in the south, north, east, west, centre. stayed near shanklin
 
Morba said:
Well, we were staying on the east side of the island for 5 nights. Given the island is small, we got to drive around quite a lot of it just to go to places.. we didn't just get off the ferry and stay close to the exit ramp :p
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I remember there being this roundabout (Newport IIRC) that 99.999% of all journeys we made involved! I kid you not, we could not go out and not use that roundabout!
 
Westyfield2 said:
I remember there being this roundabout (Newport IIRC) that 99.999% of all journeys we made involved! I kid you not, we could not go out and not use that roundabout!
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I think i remember that one! would see it on almost every journey lol
 
Coppins Bridge, and this shows exactly the kind of route you mainlanders take - main roads. The only time I ever use Coppins bridge is if I'm going in to Newport :)
 
MikeHiow said:
Why do I have to repeat myself so much? If you're going to argue, at least read the ****ing thread :/

Just 7 posts back:


Why has going to the Mainland got anything to do with it?
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Simple questions and it isn't easy to pick out meaningful info from your threads or your posts.

I asked about the mainland because somone has already asked, do you just drive round and around the IOW because why do you suddenly want something more comfortable for such a tiny place, considering you spent soo long looking for a B-road blaster? I just think you get bored easily, don't know what you want and just like to chop and change to different cars.
 
MikeHiow said:
Coppins Bridge, and this shows exactly the kind of route you mainlanders take - main roads. The only time I ever use Coppins bridge is if I'm going in to Newport :)
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Yes, because that really is the only way to get around...

We took a lot of other roads. the route back to the ferry was along the coastal route, clockwise, as one example.
 
It isn't just about comfort, it is about road compliance, too.

The Clio is exciting when you're in the mood for driving like you're a rally driver, but when you just want to make fast progress the lack of suspension travel, tramlining, bump steer, and general shoebox car features just become tiresome.

It isn't like the Isle of Wight is tiny. For example, to visit my Grandmother, I will travel 16 miles each way - that's 32 miles of nearly all bad roads - tiresome.

Morba said:
Yes, because that really is the only way to get around...
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I don't know if you're being sarcastic here, because it really isn't? And if you were being sarcastic, why did you mention seeing it on just about every journey?

Morba said:
We took a lot of other roads. the route back to the ferry was along the coastal route, clockwise, as one example.
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Oh? Which Ferry did you get?
 
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