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So you took the Military road - that'll be the "coastal road" you speak of.

Yet you saw no issues with the roads over here compared to the Mainland?

Funny that, because you have a pretty good comparison between a fun and fast, but ultimately ****ing terrible road over here and some lovely New Forest roads but could not see ours was any worse?

Sorry, but I've driven the Military Road too many times to remember, and multiple routes through the New Forest almost as much and it isn't even a close call - even most of the very small back lanes of the New Forest are not as bumpy or in as bad condition as the Military Road.

I'm also assuming that as you went through the New Forest you were heading for the M27 and went up through Brockenhurst, Lyndhurst and up the A337, which I know is a particularly good route.

So, either you're lying to support your argument on here, or errr... there isn't really another option assuming you do actually remember the drive.
 
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Was i talking about the new forest as an example of the bad roads on the mainland? no.
So stop trying to find faults in other peoples comments when yours are the ones being disected.
 
How can you expect to be dissecting other people's comments when your own do not add up?

I'd put money on me visiting the mainland a lot more often than you've visited the Isle of Wight, and I've yet to experience anywhere that has roads that are generally as bad as ours. Sure there are bad roads on the Mainland too, but this is the exception rather than the rule.
 
How can you expect to be dissecting other people's comments when your own do not add up?

I'd put money on me visiting the mainland a lot more often than you've visited the Isle of Wight, and I've yet to experience anywhere that has roads that are generally as bad as ours. Sure there are bad roads on the Mainland too, but this is the exception rather than the rule.


Given you live on the island and regularly travel to london, i think its obvious you make the trip between mainland and island more than me..... odd point to make.

My comments do not add up to you as you seem to think that the only road that i have travelled on on the mainland is through the new forest.
Roads are a joke over here this last few years. there has been plenty of news coverage about it and the lack of funds to repair pot holes that are now found in many normal roads.
 
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Roads are a joke over here this last few years. there has been plenty of news coverage about it and the lack of funds to repair pot holes that are now found in many normal roads.

I don't dispute that, but we are always behind - our roads were terrible before the spending cuts, they've been completely neglected completely for four years and they were terrible to begin with.

Our issues do not just lie with pot holes, but bad, broken and bumpy surfaces in general (roots, ground movement etc.).

If you need any more proof, have a read of this: http://www.iwight.com/council/committees/cabinet/11-8-09/PAPER B - APPENDIX 1 - PUBIC VERSION.pdf

The Isle of Wight was one of three chosen for the PFI scheme - wasting a lot of money paying the private sector to fix our roads.

Some quotes for you:

The Island's road condition has fallen below the bottom quartile of all national highway condition indicators
 
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Just LOL. I think you're blinded by fanboyism right there.

As comfortable as a Mondeo and a better place to be for 70 miles a day, and the cup suspension is too soft?

I don't know what you're smoking or if you're just being an idiot, but really? That's even a bit far fetched for Motors to digest even if it does work against me.

I don't like to agree with Mike there's a massive difference in comfort between a Mondeo and a RS Clio. Just the difference in wheel base makes it that much more comfortable. Combine that with the massively increased sound deadening and much more room makes it a much nicer place to travel reasonable distances in.
 
On a slightly lighter note, I found a cracking picture from today

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It was driven hard, too.

Today actually made me think about keeping it and improving it. With the R888s, a RARB and some better suspension with a couple of sets of springs, it could probably be more competitive and better on the road as well.

The trouble is, for the money spent doing that, I could just buy an RX8.
 
To be fair, it's his time - if he wants to waste it trying to get more for his car that he can realistically get, fine. I'm not really interested in this. I'm more interested in why he wants to get rid of it after just 2 months of owning it, even though he was hellbent on buying one before.

Well, he wasn't. He wanted a number of cars he hadn't test driven including an Impreza WRX Sti Spec C (IIRC). The Clio kind of came from left field of a rather strange bunch of considerations.

Actually, was it an RA or a Spec C. Both, maybe? It's hard to keep up with the stories.
 
It was driven hard, too.

Today actually made me think about keeping it and improving it. With the R888s, a RARB and some better suspension with a couple of sets of springs, it could probably be more competitive and better on the road as well.
wasn't you complaining about the ride a few pages back, r888s are ''noisy'' and suspension will make the ride harsher.

I can categorically state that the Clio is by far the worst in terms of comfort and compliance on anything short of a near perfect surface.


/more popcorn please.
 
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wasn't you complaining about the ride a few pages back, r888s are ''noisy'' and suspension will make the ride harsher.

/more popcorn please.

Indeed, r888s have w terrible sound to them. There are also Yokohama 48 and federwk RSR to consider.

New suspension will not make the car better on crap roads as it will have firmer springs.

Bad idea is bad.
 
Where did you drive it?

Dartmoor. It's known for its lack of B roads and smooth, race track style tarmac.

Oh wait.

I can only suggest that either you've made that up to support the argument

Don't worry - your tendancy to do exactly this is one of my pet hates, so I'd not do it in return.

If I wanted a car that was purely for being driven on the boil whenever it is driven, I'd have bought something "7". I know it's hard to comprehend, but I do, on occasion need to just go somewhere you know....

You told us on numerous occasions you wanted just that - purely a toy. It's why you rejected a lot of the softer suggestions people made and why you categorically stated at one point some old Civic was the best car ever for you.


You make it sound like I have exclusive use of both cars? The OH has the Focus most of the time, unless we're doing something together obviously.

No, YOU made it sound like you did in your previous threads. I guess it was inevitable that the truth would end up being that actually the Focus isnt even yours, it belongs to your girlfriend :p

I think you underestimate how bad our roads are.

I think you beleive you can get away with pretending that the IOW is some sort of little bubble that is completely different to the UK, whilst forgetting that, well, it isn't. You don't live on Jersey.
 
wasn't you complaining about the ride a few pages back, r888s are ''noisy'' and suspension will make the ride harsher.

Indeed, r888s have w terrible sound to them. There are also Yokohama 48 and federwk RSR to consider.

New suspension will not make the car better on crap roads as it will have firmer springs.

Today actually made me think about keeping it and improving it. With the R888s, a RARB and some better suspension with a couple of sets of springs, it could probably be more competitive and better on the road as well.

The trouble is, for the money spent doing that, I could just buy an RX8.

I have no issues with the noise, and better suspension doesn't have to be worse. You'll also notice my mention of a couple of sets of springs, coupled with adjustable rebound, you probably could find something better for the road (my issue is more with road compliance than comfort per se, remember?).

That said, I don't think it's a good idea either - it's a waste of money when for the same cash I could upgrade to a much better car.

As for the comments about me being hellbent on buying one, I wasn't. I was hell bent on a small list of other cars, it was Motors telling me that no, I don't know what I want, what I really needed was an RS Clio.
 
It was driven hard, too.

Today actually made me think about keeping it and improving it. With the R888s, a RARB and some better suspension with a couple of sets of springs, it could probably be more competitive and better on the road as well.

The trouble is, for the money spent doing that, I could just buy an RX8.

Which you'll never do because the crux of the matter is obvious for all to see.

A circumstance has resulted in you needing to sell the Clio. It isn't the worlds worst car at all - it just needs to go for whatever reason. Perhaps your money has finally run out due to the redundancy. Perhaps it has terminal engine problems. Perhaps its something completely different but the only sure thing is there is some sort of different reason why you are selling.

This is a reason you won't tell us because, as always, you want to 'save face' but will inevitably get yourself into a much bigger hole by trying to make everything up, as you usually do.

You'll eventually sell the Clio and you probably won't buy an RX8.

What are you going to do in the meantime, do all those trips the Clio ruins on the bus because the Focus belongs to your girlfriend and you 'dont have exclusive use'?
 
I have no issues with the noise, and better suspension doesn't have to be worse. You'll also notice my mention of a couple of sets of springs, coupled with adjustable rebound, you probably could find something better for the road (my issue is more with road compliance than comfort per se, remember?).
Im not going to ''fox'' you, but r888s and stiffer suspension will make the quality of the ride worse than it is currently in terms of comfort. Period.
 
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