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alexisonfire · 10 Mar 2011 at 19:21

Oh and while you are confident on changing a cambelt yourself, have you definitely read up on changing them on these cars? They are renowned for being an absolute ******* to do, and are highly recommended to be done by RS specialists.

dazz25 · 10 Mar 2011 at 19:23

MikeHiow said:
Let who near it? The warranty company only pays, they have nothing to do with the job it's self.

Fair enough, I thought they might specify a garage that's approved by them.

alexisonfire said:
Oh and while you are confident on changing a cambelt yourself, have you definitely read up on changing them on these cars? They are renowned for being an absolute ******* to do, and are highly recommended to be done by RS specialists.

This is the point I was getting at though.

MikeHiow · 10 Mar 2011 at 19:25

Yes, I know what is involved after spending a fair bit of time talking to a couple of these "specialists" on CS.net and my friendly mechanic that has done a few successfully.

People **** them up without having the proper tools, it's when they try and do it without the tools that things go wrong.

Skeeter · 10 Mar 2011 at 19:32

Belts and pulley is £800 and a days work from Renault. I paid £600 'mates rates'. Feel free to do it yourself, just don't expect sympathy from us when it goes wrong.

Starting to see why this was so cheap now.

dazz25 · 10 Mar 2011 at 19:37

Starting to think the same now.
I paid a bit more for mine but at least it had just had the belts done and had matching tyres all round (V12's) with a decent amount of tread on them.

MikeHiow · 10 Mar 2011 at 19:47

Skeeter said:
Belts and pulley is £800 and a days work from Renault. I paid £600 'mates rates'. Feel free to do it yourself, just don't expect sympathy from us when it goes wrong.

Starting to see why this was so cheap now.

I mentioned very early on what needed doing, this isn't a recent development. I know exactly why it was cheap but would not have bought it if I wasn't fully aware of the implications.

There will be no need for sympathy.

dazz25 said:
Starting to think the same now.
I paid a bit more for mine but at least it had just had the belts done and had matching tyres all round (V12's) with a decent amount of tread on them.

This is the second time you've mentioned tyre tread, why? Ok, it has one odd tyre, but that's an £80 fix?

dazz25 · 10 Mar 2011 at 19:53

MikeHiow said:
This is the second time you've mentioned tyre tread, why? Ok, it has one odd tyre, but that's an £80 fix?

Think you'll find it's the first time i've mentioned it! Care to show me where else i've mentioned tyre treads??

[TW]Fox · 10 Mar 2011 at 19:53

MikeHiow said:
This is the second time you've mentioned tyre tread, why? Ok, it has one odd tyre, but that's an £80 fix?

How is it an £80 fix? The Pilot Exalto has been discontinued, you can't buy it anymore. So unless you want mismatching tread patterns for ever you'll be needing 2 tyres - and even if you buy one, a Pilot Sport 3 is £88.50 delivered from Camskill and then you've got to get it fitted so you are looking at £100.

Doubtless though you have yet another 'friendly mechanic' who will fit tyres for free.

alexisonfire · 10 Mar 2011 at 19:56

TBH guys i really don't see this as a bad buy, even with the work that needs doing. If the rest of the car is in good nick, even with the cambelt change and new tyres its still very good value. Get that cambelt done ASAP though (and please consider getting it done at a specialist

)

Edit: Whats the mileage btw? Its not something silly like 150k is it?

Firestar_3x · 10 Mar 2011 at 19:57

TBH after the way my Clio interior felt after 37k i'd hate to own one with 130k on the clock.

[TW]Fox · 10 Mar 2011 at 19:57

alexisonfire said:
Edit: Whats the mileage btw? Its not something silly like 150k is it?

130k.

MikeHiow · 10 Mar 2011 at 20:06

dazz25 said:
Think you'll find it's the first time i've mentioned it! Care to show me where else i've mentioned tyre treads??

Sorry, I was mistaken with Disco Boy's post.

[TW]Fox;18644310 said:
How is it an £80 fix? The Pilot Exalto has been discontinued, you can't buy it anymore. So unless you want mismatching tread patterns for ever you'll be needing 2 tyres - and even if you buy one, a Pilot Sport 3 is £88.50 delivered from Camskill and then you've got to get it fitted so you are looking at £100.

Doubtless though you have yet another 'friendly mechanic' who will fit tyres for free.

It is an £80 fix because I have already sourced the replacement tyre locally for just that sum of money. Just because they are not made any more, does not mean no one stocks them - Loads of places still list them.

And why would I need another friendly mechanic? One is enough

I'm free to use his tyre machine / balancer whenever I like....

Joshy · 10 Mar 2011 at 20:11

Sorry if I'm being slow, but I'm still not getting this warranty thing.

1) Does a warranty worth the paper it is written on a car with 130,000 miles on the clock really exist?
2) Are they really happy to have you DIY the work? I'd have thought they'd want detailed invoices from proper garages and possibly even the parts being replaced back, otherwise it'd be RIPE for scamming
3) Isn't putting a warranty claim in within a matter of days going to have alarm bells ringing?

Anyway... Nice buy. If only I could go back to FWD

...

Skeeter · 10 Mar 2011 at 20:14

alexisonfire said:
TBH guys i really don't see this as a bad buy, even with the work that needs doing. If the rest of the car is in good nick, even with the cambelt change and new tyres its still very good value. Get that cambelt done ASAP though (and please consider getting it done at a specialist )

Edit: Whats the mileage btw? Its not something silly like 150k is it?

A cheap high mileage 182 that needs a little bit of work is not a bad buy. Choosing to do things yourself that you should get a specialist to do could be a bad decision.

MikeHiow · 10 Mar 2011 at 20:14

1. No idea, and I don't really care - the warranty is a bonus and nothing more.

2. I doubt they'd be happy to DIY the work, but as far as they are concerned the work is going to be done at a VAT registered garage as per their requirements, but seeing as they only pay the first £300 of any claim, I'll still sleep at night.

3. Probably, see the first paragraph though.

[TW]Fox · 10 Mar 2011 at 20:16

MikeHiow said:
2. I doubt they'd be happy to DIY the work, but as far as they are concerned the work is going to be done at a VAT registered garage as per their requirements, but seeing as they only pay the first £300 of any claim, I'll still sleep at night.

I see, MikeHiow ethics at work, going to con the warranty company

MikeHiow · 10 Mar 2011 at 20:18

Skeeter said:
A cheap high mileage 182 that needs a little bit of work is not a bad buy. Choosing to do things yourself that you should get a specialist to do could be a bad decision.

You need to understand why people tell you that you should have a specialist do it. These specialists all had to do it for the first time at some point, don't forget.

Like I've told you, the issue comes when garages do cambelts in the usual 'tipex fashion' and do not bother using the specialist tools to lock the camshafts and pulleys.

Once you understand what is involved, this is not rocket science....

MikeHiow · 10 Mar 2011 at 20:18

[TW]Fox;18644488 said:
I see, MikeHiow ethics at work, going to con the warranty company

Not really, they pay out £300 either way, except my way works out a bit cheaper for me....

[TW]Fox · 10 Mar 2011 at 20:19

It doesnt cover pre-existing faults though, so what method of getting them to pay exists other than fraud?

You cant buy a car cheap because it has a fault, get a warranty with the car, and then claim on the warranty for the fault!

Blackhawk47 · 10 Mar 2011 at 20:19

[TW]Fox;18644488 said:
I see, MikeHiow ethics at work, going to con the warranty company

Not going to end well...its like when on the m3 forums (i think?) when someone stated they were speeding or something and the police ended up getting involved.

Isn't this essentially fraud then?