The Turing RTX 2080 Ti Owners Thread

ArmitageShanks · 7 Nov 2018 at 08:54

chrcoluk said:
The so called wasted space is wasted by other ports tho. I wouldnt classify the DVI as legacy considering its still on many newly sold monitors today and more DVI displays still get sold than DP displays. No way is DVI is in the same class as VGA.

A DVI port (including the securing screws) takes up the space of two DP or HDMI ports. Using DP-to-DVI cables means you can then run two DVI monitors. There was a time when you needed dual-link DVI to drive higher resolutions off a single cable but DP has overtaken DVI in that regard, and then some.

Just use convertor cables. They do exist. Unless you're using DVI-A in which case...get a modern monitor.

DarrenM343 · 7 Nov 2018 at 11:26

Not seen it mentioned recently but only a few days left I think now for a first taste of RT. Battlefield V being released on the 9th Nov!

kevman · 7 Nov 2018 at 11:53

DarrenM343 said:
Not seen it mentioned recently but only a few days left I think now for a first taste of RT. Battlefield V being released on the 9th Nov!

Hopefully get some benchies over the weekend. Sounds as though cpu will play big role in RT performance so might be a bit cryptic exactly how good the cards actually are.

tyler_jrb · 7 Nov 2018 at 13:52

DarrenM343 said:
Not seen it mentioned recently but only a few days left I think now for a first taste of RT. Battlefield V being released on the 9th Nov!

Looking forward to it! Enjoyed BFV beta a lot more than I have playing bf1.

Finally will get an insight into rtx and possibly dlss performance too.

HazardO · 7 Nov 2018 at 13:58

DarrenM343 said:
Not seen it mentioned recently but only a few days left I think now for a first taste of RT. Battlefield V being released on the 9th Nov!

I don't believe it will support Ray Tracing on release. I think it will also require windows RS5 (win10 18/09) and the DXR extensions, and Microsoft pulled RS5 over a number of issues. Personally I'll be a bit gutted if it is available from the off as I can't upgrade to RS5 without losing my CPU overclocks thanks to the broken microcode updates it forces on users (Only really a problem for overclocked Broadwell-E CPUs).

melmac · 7 Nov 2018 at 14:08

tyler_jrb said:
Looking forward to it! Enjoyed BFV beta a lot more than I have playing bf1.

Finally will get an insight into rtx and possibly dlss performance too.

Not unless Microsoft release a stable version of their 1809 update in the next couple of days. Don't think windows 10 supports ray tracing without this update.

@HazardO beat me to it

DarrenM343 · 7 Nov 2018 at 14:57

melmac said:
Not unless Microsoft release a stable version of their 1809 update in the next couple of days. Don't think windows 10 supports ray tracing without this update.

@HazardO beat me to it

Have they not sorted that out yet? This was some time ago (Sept?). I thought they had continued the rollout a bit later when they fixed an issue, or did that not include the RT stuff?.
Apparently DLSS might be included too with the Battlefield V release. Seems nothing completely certain. Will see what happens on the 9th I suppose

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My PC is showing 1809 version installed on the 4th Oct. I do remember it blue-screening though with an AMD file related error during the update :rolleyes:

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melmac · 7 Nov 2018 at 16:13

DarrenM343 said:
Have they not sorted that out yet? This was some time ago (Sept?). I thought they had continued the rollout a bit later when they fixed an issue, or did that not include the RT stuff?.
Apparently DLSS might be included too with the Battlefield V release. Seems nothing completely certain. Will see what happens on the 9th I suppose .
My PC is showing 1809 version installed on the 4th Oct. I do remember it blue-screening though with an AMD file related error during the update .

They started the Rollout of the October Update and then pulled it after they discovered people were having problems. If I was you, I would roll back to the previous version and wait until they release the proper fixed version. They restarted the update on the insider channels, but, stopped that after further issues were found.

You might not be having issues at present, but, Windows 1809 in it's current form is very, very flawed in regards to both security and stability.

chrcoluk · 7 Nov 2018 at 17:45

ArmitageShanks said:
A DVI port (including the securing screws) takes up the space of two DP or HDMI ports. Using DP-to-DVI cables means you can then run two DVI monitors. There was a time when you needed dual-link DVI to drive higher resolutions off a single cable but DP has overtaken DVI in that regard, and then some.

Just use convertor cables. They do exist. Unless you're using DVI-A in which case...get a modern monitor.

You still dont get it.

I am pointing out there will be more people who have a DVI display than people who need 2 or 3 hdmi or 2 or 3 DP's.

When you already have a DP and a hdmi port on a card, a DVI has far more value than 2 extra DP or 2 extra HDMI ports especially as DP can be daisy chained.

If we take myself as an example DP vs DVI?

Both handle my monitor native res with clean signal 1440p 60hz.
DVI is reliable.
DP due to the complicated and buggy nature of the tech if I turn off my monitor and then turn it back on again it stays in perpetual sleep mode. The monitor has a buggy DP implementation.
There is a few people who have similar issues with DP sleep issues, of which have no resolution, they fixed their issues by using hdmi or DVI, hdmi is a tv not monitor technology so is funny that has took priority over DVI on PC components.

So given DP has daisy chaining why do we need more than 1 DP on a graphics card? You say buy a convertor, I say daisy chain your displays.

Also I will never upgrade my monitor unless there is a proper reason to, upgrading a monitor just to get a working DP, so spending £300+ for that is a huge waste of cash, I am not a bottomless pit of money. Which brings me to the real reason I think DVI got retired, planned obsolescence. I wonder if the monitor vendors get discounts on their gsync chips in return for nvidia generating monitor sales with the move.

Obviously the day will come I will be forced to change, one day my 1080ti will not be sufficient, then I will very likely have to buy a new monitor, since the hdmi port on is used by the ps4, and the DP on it is too buggy.

kevman · 7 Nov 2018 at 18:57

chrcoluk said:
their issues by using hdmi or DVI, hdmi is a tv not monitor technology so is funny that has took priority over DVI on PC components.

HDMI runs vr head sets though.
I have had no problems with dp. My second monitor dell u2412m is over 7 years old and has dp so it's not exactly new tech.

Planned obsolessence forces consumers to buy new tech aswell. I miss vga and vhs

Kaapstad · 7 Nov 2018 at 19:21

I wonder what is going to win @2160p.

XeNoNF50 · 7 Nov 2018 at 19:51

Kaapstad said:
I wonder what is going to win @2160p.

Enjoy, fella!!

Gregster · 8 Nov 2018 at 01:12

Nice Kaap

tyler_jrb · 8 Nov 2018 at 01:18

Kaapstad said:
I wonder what is going to win @2160p.

chrcoluk · 8 Nov 2018 at 05:47

kevman said:
HDMI runs vr head sets though.
I have had no problems with dp. My second monitor dell u2412m is over 7 years old and has dp so it's not exactly new tech.

Planned obsolessence forces consumers to buy new tech aswell. I miss vga and vhs

Sorry was in a mood, I wont go on about this more in this thread. MY point was DVI displays are still been manufactured and sold, but I think we should drop this debate. I will just keep my 1080ti as long as it performs well which should be at least 3 years, and then at that point I will cross the bridge of the problem I will have at hand.

Kaapstad · 8 Nov 2018 at 06:54

XeNoNF50 said:
Enjoy, fella!!

Gregster said:
Nice Kaap

tyler_jrb said:

Thanks.

Smak · 8 Nov 2018 at 07:40

Looking to pick up 2080ti towards the end of the month to replace my current GTX 1070 as recently switched to 4K Sony AF9 OLED, my only concern is my ancient X58 setup and X5650. Will this CPU @4.4Ghz hold out a little longer until Zen2 arrives or will I be massively holding back the 2080ti? I did fancy the i9 9900K but not been impressed now released and would like to see what AMD can offer.

Smffy · 8 Nov 2018 at 08:02

Kaapstad said:
I wonder what is going to win @2160p.

Ah you finally joined the club, nice work!

4k4uNuNu · 8 Nov 2018 at 10:25

New to forum, I somehow managed to talk myself into spending over a grand on a graphics card even though I know new tech is around the corner and the card has issues, so decided to join up to report any issues/non issues I find.

I'm not posting a picture of a box lol, I'll post my build when finished (not installed yet) and hopefully people can give me tips.

tyler_jrb · 8 Nov 2018 at 11:35

Smak said:
Looking to pick up 2080ti towards the end of the month to replace my current GTX 1070 as recently switched to 4K Sony AF9 OLED, my only concern is my ancient X58 setup and X5650. Will this CPU @4.4Ghz hold out a little longer until Zen2 arrives or will I be massively holding back the 2080ti? I did fancy the i9 9900K but not been impressed now released and would like to see what AMD can offer.

It should be ok at 4k as it doesn’t require much cpu power. If you plan on getting the Ti anyway then you might as well just install it into the x58 system and benchmark it. See if you are getting results close to others.