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The Mad Rapper said:
it suggests that the attacks on the 11th September in New York were carried out by the security apparatus of the US Government to provide grounds for an attack on Iraq and Afghanistan,
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This is the very first time I have heard this theory on these forums.
I really can't believe it hasn't been mentioned before.
 
does this mean the 7/7 attacks were done by the British gov ?

The facts point to who carried out the attack on 9/11 and it wasnt the US gov.
 
The Mad Rapper said:
I don't have to make an argument you idiot. I wanted everyone to watch the video from start to finish then come back and discuss it with an open mind.

Don't talk about being grown up when you clearly aren't.
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If you don't want to discuss/argue a topic, why have you created the thread? Obviously you do want to discuss it, but don't appear to be making any substantial points yourself. I know this, because you posted a youtube video and then called everyone who decried it for being (yet another) stupid youtube video as being 'closed minded'. It's a carbon copy clone of every single other stupid "9/11 THE GOVERNMENT DID IT!" thread.

The world would be better off if people actually could think for themselves, and were capable of having a discussion. Sadly, we've got bandwagons, and people who like to jump on those bandwagons.

This is a waste of time. Thanks for letting the world know that a significant part of your worldview appears to be shaped by crackpots posting on youtube though. Good info.
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growse said:
I know this, because you posted a youtube video and then called everyone who decried it for being (yet another) stupid youtube video as being 'closed minded'. It's a carbon copy clone of every single other stupid "9/11 THE GOVERNMENT DID IT!" thread.
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So does that mean the Government didn't do it? Or does the weight of people suggesting that they did indicate that it's worthy of further consideration?

The world would be better off if people actually could think for themselves, and were capable of having a discussion. Sadly, we've got bandwagons, and people who like to jump on those bandwagons.
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I haven't decided one way or the other. I watched it with an open mind and encourage others to do likewise. Draw your own conclusions - I've not told anyone how to think.

This is a waste of time. Thanks for letting the world know that a significant part of your worldview appears to be shaped by crackpots posting on youtube though. Good info.
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Welcome to my ignore list.
 
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Where did you all get your facts?

Reliable facts at that. I want to read up on it, I was 10 years old when it happened.
 
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Nothing is taken out of context in this movie - watch it - there's no narration at all.

I am amazed how closed minded you all are. Not one person has posted anything that indicates to me you are capable of keeping an open mind.

Do you really think they aren't capable of something like this? They have assassinated their own President and countless other leaders around the world. Blowing a few buildings up is nothing.
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Ah, the old "open your mind", "you're all close minded" argument. When you open your mind so much that you believe anything that is said on an internet video, a collection of anecdotes and unreferenced "facts", whilst dismissing logic, reason, and rationality.

Now, I could "open my mind", spend precious hours of my life watching this video, criticise it, go through every point where they have lied, cherry picked, citing sources incorrectly and the many cases of pareidolia. I might spend some time debunking each and every point in some kind of attempt to try and convince you that this video does nothing to support the idea that 9/11 was an inside job.

But it would be pointless. Because you've already made your mind up.

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Who did it, as in who pulled the triggers, is less important than why they did it.

How do I know? Because I am a former CID trained Royal Military Police Special Investigation Branch Detective Sergeant with 14 years experience as a criminal investigator. I've read the official Warren Commission Report covers to covers and just about every single book ever written on the subject. I stay in regular touch with published authors on the subject.

I am in no doubt whatsoever that Kennedy was assassinated. He wanted peace. There's nothing more to it than that.

I'm happy to discuss this in another thread, but please don't de-rail this, and please don't treat me as though I am stupid.
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Blimey.
 
LeJosh said:
Where did you all get your facts?

Reliable facts at that. I want to read up on it, I was 10 years old when it happened.
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NIST reports should be your first point of call, then a debunking site, which will include photos and links which you can then compare to CTs and in some cases find the original reports certain quotes have come from.
 
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