Soldato
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I want away from england,we are simply better in everyway.
That was part of my point. The other part being that going back to the middle ages to blame England for everything (including numerous things that never actually happened) in order to promote irrational prejudice in the present and future is wildly inaccurate as well as ridiculous.
Sorry skimmed your first post, see what you were meaning now. The majority of Scottish people only need to go back to the 1980s to find reasons to blame England for everything anyway![]()
Fixed.
the Scots started it in 1138 by using an English civil war as an opportunity to invade England
This thesis examines and analyzes Englishmen’s perceptions of Scots during the years between the Revolution of 1688 and the Shawfield Riots of 1725. In 1707, the Scottish Parliament convened for the last time and Scottish parliamentarians began to sit in the Westminster Parliament. The Treaty of Union of 1707 created a united British polity and economy. But many Englishmen held biased views of Scots, and these ingrained prejudices did not diminish despite the formation of a British government and market. English disdain for Scotland’s people, religion, culture and economy in the early eighteenth century had seventeenth-century antecedents, and a litany of Anglo-Scottish political crises that occurred from 1688-1725 exacerbated this contempt. The two objectives of this thesis are to demonstrate that the 1707 Union did relatively little to improve English opinions of Scots and to explain how anti-Scottish prejudices adversely affected the development of national identity in early-eighteenth-century Great Britain.
nydril said:The majority of Scottish people don't want independence. Don't mistake a vote for the SNP as a vote for independence.
Windle said:The majority of Scots dont want or support independence. If they did the referendum would be done and dusted long ago.
div0 said:b) that just because people have voted for the SNP in Scotland, doesn't mean that they support the idea of independence.
SUPPORT for independence has moved ahead of opposition to Scotland’s breakaway from the UK for the first time in more than three years, and for only the second time since a series of polls on the issue began exactly four years ago.
The latest TNS-BMRB poll, published today by The Herald, shows those who would vote Yes for independence ahead by 39% to 38%
The last time those who back Scotland going it alone were in front was a one-off lead for independence supporters in spring 2008.
Whatever pal, speak to the folk in Paisley etc about independence and what you get is "aye, independence all the way. Screw the English". There is no thought behind it, just ignorance and stupidity and IN MY EXPERIENCE the majority of independence supporters fall into the same category. Again, sure there are exceptions. Folk with their own political views and reasons for supporting independence but I'd say they are the minority.
I'm Scottish, vote Tory and support the union. I'm also interesting in the proported idea of the re branding of the Conservative Party in Scotland.
I'm sometimes a little dismayed at the amount of English people who want to kick Scotland out of the union though..
No it is not. The Bank of England is a UK institution, however while it was based loosely on a concept devised by a Scotsman it was actually founded by an Englishman.
Get your facts in a row....
lliam & Queen Mary
When William and Mary came to the throne in 1688, public finances were weak. The system of money and credit was in disarray. A national bank was needed to mobilise the nation's resources.
William Paterson
William Paterson proposed a loan of £1,200,000 to the Government. In return the subscribers would be incorporated as the Governor and Company of the Bank of England.
The Royal Charter
The money was raised in a few weeks and the Royal Charter was sealed on 27th July 1694. The Bank started life as the Government's banker and debt-manager, with 17 clerks and 2 gatekeepers. In 1734 the Bank moved to Thread-needle Street, gradually acquiring land and premises to create the site seen today."
I was wondering when Biohazard wouldn't be able to resist anymore.![]()
Biohazard, me ole mucker, where you been?
[TW]Fox;20266058 said:Most of the population can just about manage to vote on reality television let alone something far more complex and far more important like this. Any such vote would be decided by the tabloid press who would effectively tell the readership how to vote by way of biased and ridiculous reporting.
[TW]Fox;20266058 said:I'm glad we dont give the population a say in stuff like this. The idea is that we elect people to make these decisions for us. It's not perfect and its deeply flawed but its marginally less scary than Man In the Street being able to decide on a subject he knows nothing about and wouldn't bother to research anyway.
[TW]Fox;20266058 said:As Sir Winston Churchill very aptly put it..
'The best argument against democracy is a 10 minute conversation with the average voter'
Do the BoE have their facts wrong?
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/about/history/index.htm#2
No mention of the Earl of Halifax. It also contradicts the sources used for the wiki article.
It was proposed by William Paterson, it was founded by the British Government and specifically Queen Mary, who Paterson expressly stated that the Bank Act would have been quashed in the Privy Council but for Queen Mary, who, following the wish of her husband. expressed firmly in a letter from Flanders, pressed the commission forward, after a six hours' sitting.
He proposed the idea, the Lords founded it.
BoE said:The beginnings
The revolution of 1688, which brought William and Mary to the throne, gave England a measure of political stability unknown for nearly a century. Commerce flourished, but the public finances were weak and the system of money and credit was in disarray. The goldsmith bankers had been damaged by the lax financial management of the Stuart kings. There were calls for a national or public bank to mobilise the nation's resources. Many schemes were proposed. The successful one, from William Paterson, envisaged a loan of £1,200,000 to the Government, in return for which the subscribers would be incorporated as the "Governor and Company of the Bank of England". Although the new bank would have risked its entire capital by lending it to the Government, the subscription proved popular and the money was raised in a few weeks. The Royal Charter was sealed on 27 July 1694, and the Bank started its role as the Government's banker and debt-manager, which it continues today.
"He was a co-founder of the Bank of England, and it is said that the project originated with him in 1691. On the foundation of the bank in 1694 he became a director"
There's always been a massive anti English sentiment when it comes to sport. On the news the other day they were effectively pleading with Scottish fans not to boo the Lichenstein anthem because it's the same tune as God Save The Queen. Ignore sporting events, they mean nothing.