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The Wow Factor But Confused
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Right,
There isn't really, a digital image is an image no matter what or where it comes from its exactly the same unless the input settings are different. its like saying a £30 HDMI or DVI cable has better IQ than a £10 one, utter nonsense... its zeros and ones complied and decompiled at apposite ends, you either have a picture or you don't, there is nothing in-betweenColour, Contrast, Sharpness... all these are predefined and adjustable settings in the Driver and Screen, the digital signal the GPU is putting out does not come into it.
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Right,
Colour, Contrast, Sharpness... all these are predefined and adjustable settings in the Driver and Screen, the digital signal the GPU is putting out does not come into it.
You could say that about the audio over hdmi too. But the sound from my amp is a LOT better from my 780ti than from my AMD card. Using same cable/settings ect.
lol, it can't be, HDMI audio works the same as optical out, it's your receiver/amp that's processing the signal. The graphics cards don't do anything to the sound quality.
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I'm not a liar and theres a difference when playing flac files.
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I can say that metalmackey relies a lot on his hearing due to almost total blindness, so if he says he can hear a difference then i believe him. I probably will not notice to being tone deaf LOL
Not calling you a liar, but, there can't be a difference. All the the graphic card does is pass through the sound to your receiver/amp to be played. The sound quality is entirely dependent on your speakers and amp.
HDMI audio works exactly the same as optical/spdif out.
OF course, the HDMI out could be faulty on the AMD card. Other than that, I can't see how there could be a difference.
He's right, its difficult to explain Digital.
The source IE: Audio from the Game / DVD / BlueRay is a computer language code, the GPU Decompiles that code and rewrites it in its own code which it then sends to the receiver (The Amp) its not a radio wave sound format that can lose any quality, like the now defunct analogue UHF TV signal or FM Radio.
Its not even a recognisable physical entity as such, its just a jumble of code with no treatment in it of any kind.
The AMP decompiles that code and sends it into its own sound proccessor, which converts it into analogue before sending the raw analogue audio signal to the speakers, this is where 'what was a generic code'- is filtered, treated, enhanced, amplified....
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Well it might be down to drivers, Sound cut out in windows on the 7970 and AMD don't seem that bothered to fix it. Funny really seeing as they now have trueaudio. It could be that maybe AMD is compressing the sound? As I say, I dunno why there is a difference and I believe you there shouldn't be
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Any idea how to change it to full rgb in catalyst control centre with 14.7 drivers?
Well it might be down to drivers, Sound cut out in windows on the 7970 and AMD don't seem that bothered to fix it. Funny really seeing as they now have trueaudio. It could be that maybe AMD is compressing the sound? As I say, I dunno why there is a difference and I believe you there shouldn't be
Yeah.
AMD could be using a pre-amplification sound profile in the Drivers, a bit like Bass / Treble ecte.... setting in Realtek before sending in on to your speakers / AMP, or it isn't and Nvidia do, or they both do and the Nvidia profile is more to how you like it.
Shankley might know...
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I just found it (couldn't previously see it as my TV was off)
It was on YCbCr 4:4:4 Pixel Format
So we think RGB 4:4:4 (Full RGB) should be better for games if the TV supports it (which it does?)
It was on YCbCr 4:4:4 Pixel Format
So we think RGB 4:4:4 (Full RGB) should be better for games if the TV supports it (which it does?)
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After some Testing,
Found these:
Windows Text Feature changed settings by itself (the AA stuff in Windows)
Monitor Setting changed from a different pre-set i had to new one.
Cable - not sure it made any difference tbh (cant test) no Mini-Dp on my card
Found these:
Windows Text Feature changed settings by itself (the AA stuff in Windows)
Monitor Setting changed from a different pre-set i had to new one.
Cable - not sure it made any difference tbh (cant test) no Mini-Dp on my card
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If you using HDMI its under my digital flat panel and then pixel format.
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See you found it.
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Apparently, Try it, let us know
YCbCr 4:4:4 Pixel Format is better.
RGB made everything so dark, even when my TV was on THX Brightmode.
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That's because you not calibrated your display
games are full RGB colour range. So if you enable full RGB and calibrate your display to show the new colour range you will get a more rich colours and better detail in black and dark areas like shadows. You also get better details in whites.
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The contrast was whacked right up and all the detail was crushed though.
Surely calibrating it isn't going to help when the contrast is near enough 80% anyway.
Surely calibrating it isn't going to help when the contrast is near enough 80% anyway.