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I think Matt has a great voice but if it's true he lost the head with Wagner because the Brazilian can't sing, I'm starting to doubt if he's got any maturity about him.

We know he can't sing. Wagner knows this. Why get mad? Unless you want to look like a moron. :D

It's like getting mad at a monkey for destroying your house!
 
It appears that the common feeling in the X-Factor house is that Vargner is a bully and a letch.

It's reported that he has 'accidently' walked into private rooms where Rebecca, Mary and Katie have been in some form of undress on several occasions. He has also reportedly bullied the boys in One Direction as well as verbally abused both Katie and Rebecca, which prompted Matt's reaction and Vargners subsequent removal from the house.

By all reports he seems to be a thoroughly repugnant human being.
 
It appears that the common feeling in the X-Factor house is that Vargner is a bully and a letch.

It's reported that he has 'accidently' walked into private rooms where Rebecca, Mary and Katie have been in some form of undress on several occasions. He has also reportedly bullied the boys in One Direction as well as verbally abused both Katie and Rebecca, which prompted Matt's reaction and Vargners subsequent removal from the house.

By all reports he seems to be a thoroughly repugnant human being.
But he is funny when he tries to sing, so that's ok!
 
It appears that the common feeling in the X-Factor house is that Vargner is a bully and a letch.

It's reported that he has 'accidently' walked into private rooms where Rebecca, Mary and Katie have been in some form of undress on several occasions. He has also reportedly bullied the boys in One Direction as well as verbally abused both Katie and Rebecca, which prompted Matt's reaction and Vargners subsequent removal from the house.

By all reports he seems to be a thoroughly repugnant human being.

There are 'reports' on most of the housemates being horrible i.e Cher being a selfish diva, One Direction wrecking the place and suprisingly it all gets 'leaked' before the live shows. There will be another one brought out this week as simon tries to step up getting Wagner the boot.
 
It appears that the common feeling in the X-Factor house is that Vargner is a bully and a letch.

It's reported that he has 'accidently' walked into private rooms where Rebecca, Mary and Katie have been in some form of undress on several occasions. He has also reportedly bullied the boys in One Direction as well as verbally abused both Katie and Rebecca, which prompted Matt's reaction and Vargners subsequent removal from the house.

By all reports he seems to be a thoroughly repugnant human being.

Yeah yeah yeah.

Abusing Rebecca? Is this the same Wagner that wore a 'Vote Rebecca' tshirt earlier on in the series?

Matt's a grade 1 ar*ehole and a fraud. It's just a bad case of wanting to be alpha male imo.
 
To be honest, all the contestants living in the house are under pressure. They are effectively going through an intensive job-interview process, under the full eyes of the public. Every week, the tabloids are trying to dig up dirt on the contestants.

Given the above, I suppose it is only natural for there to be some arguments.

Also, with regards to Wagner moving out: he is a lot older than most of the other contestants, so it can't be easy for him living with all those youngsters. I'm 36 and it would probably hack me off, having to share with One Direction (a bunch of 16/17 year olds). This isn't a criticism of One Direction, as it is quite normal for 16/17 year olds to be a little rowdy. I can well imagine Wagner moaning at One Direction, to keep the noise down or tidy up the communal areas of the house, which they have messed up.
 
Yeah yeah yeah.

Abusing Rebecca? Is this the same Wagner that wore a 'Vote Rebecca' tshirt earlier on in the series?

Matt's a grade 1 ar*ehole and a fraud. It's just a bad case of wanting to be alpha male imo.

I'm sure you have that on great authority.:rolleyes:

At least I recognise that the reports may well be fallacious or exaggerated. Still given how he leers after the Dancers I doubt it is too far from the truth.

I quite liked Wagner to begin with, but as the show has progressed I have increasing felt that he is a dirty old man and it is not just Matt Cardle that has complained about him, but everyone in the House and several mainly female members of the Production Crew.

They would not have moved him if there was not some kind of problem.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, you feel Matt is a fraud :confused:, even discounting anything in the media I think Wagner is a perv. I base my opinion on what I see on the show, not what I read.
 
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion, you feel Matt is a fraud :confused:, even discounting anything in the media I think Wagner is a perv. I base my opinion on what I see on the show, not what I read.

No need for the rolleyes, Mr Opinionated!

Matt seems to thrive on the image that has been set for him. A struggling poor painter and decorator. Of course he is.

If you want to consistently post press stories then how about this one:-

Matt Cardle dumped his long-term girlfriend days after his first audition, saying: "I stand a better chance if I'm single."

But while Matt moved on and focused on the live finals, Lauren's dad Mick says she struggled to come to terms with the split.
Mick, 55, says: "Matt has been really unfair to Lauren.
"She went along to Matt's first X Factor audition and stood in the queue with him for hours and supported him backstage.
"They even kissed for the cameras after he was voted through to the next round by the judges.
"But then straight afterwards he dumped her. When Lauren asked why, he said the X Factor thought it would be better if he was single.
"They said he would stand a better chance if he wasn't with someone. It is awful how he's treated her."

What a genuinely great guy he is.
 
No need for the rolleyes, Mr Opinionated!

Matt seems to thrive on the image that has been set for him. A struggling poor painter and decorator. Of course he is.

If you want to consistently post press stories then how about this one:-



What a genuinely great guy he is.

Pot and kettle spring to mind here.

Show me one press story I have actually posted then. I referred to reports, I did not post them or give them credence quite the opposite, I stated that they could well be false or exaggerated and that my opinion is based purely on what I view myself on the show . You appear to be taken in by the press hype, not I.

btw, that story was refuted by just about everyone who actually knows Matt. They said the relationship ended naturally like most do. However even if it is true, ending a relationship that you no longer wish to be in is hardly criminal or indeed wrong. Staying in one just to preserve some false sense of fairness would be both wrong and unfair to the young woman involved. I fail to see any wrongdoing either way other than a young woman, feeling hurt by a breakup which is understandable and a Father who wishes to protect his daughter, again understandable.

I suggest you put your bad attitude away before you hurt yourself.
 
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Pot and kettle spring to mind here.

Show me one press story I have actually posted then. I refered to reports, I did not post them or give them credence. You do that.

btw, that story was refuted by just about everyone who actually knows Matt. They said the relationship ended naturally like most do.

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I'm thinking his girlfriend probably knew Matt quite well.

it is not just Matt Cardle that has complained about him, but everyone in the House and several mainly female members of the Production Crew.

Do you work on the show or did you just happen to get these stories from the PRESS?

You're the type of guy that would say black is white just to have a differing opinion for the sake of things! You have an ego the size of a house. In my opinion, of course.

From 'falsetto' to 'acne', Castiel is always the expert. :D
 
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