Thinking of taking up a martial art...

Banzai_Joe · 13 Apr 2012 at 09:56

JRY said:
I train with Terry Ezra in Liverpool The Sensei that I was thinking of is Chiba Sensei. Not sure if you've heard of him but he does have a very fierce reputation.

Too bad you're not training anymore m8. was asking because will be in Coventry next week for a seminar and seeing as you're in the midlands, thought perhaps you'd be there.

Yes, heard of Chiba Sensei. Seeing as you're from Liverpool, you heard of Ted Devlin?

JRY · 13 Apr 2012 at 10:14

Banzai_Joe said:
Yes, heard of Chiba Sensei. Seeing as you're from Liverpool, you heard of Ted Devlin?

No m8, can't say that I have

Do you have a website with more information? there is a geocities link but it seems to be down. The North West is a great place for Martial arts

Banzai_Joe · 13 Apr 2012 at 10:34

There is very little regarding Ted Devlin on the web, not sure why though.

hurfdurf · 13 Apr 2012 at 11:16

Banzai_Joe said:
You're at it again mate....completely missing the point?
Of course its choreographed......its a demo. But they're not being pansies about it either, they're putting as real kicks in as they can without properly damaging some of the UK's finest soldiers.

Yes....because its a real fight. Not a demo or a training session.
You think they actually train with that ferocity, period?
The thread was about martial arts styles, brawling is no kind of style.....and why did you not bother to post some of Abbotts other fights. He's lost more than he won. And the losses....almost half by submission, meaning he was beaten by proper technique.
Brawling only takes a fighter so far.....

First off lol that you think his style is "brawling".

Second of all, what techniques do you think had him beat? Superior wretsling and BJJ or Ninjitsu warrior/Aikido nonsense?

hurfdurf · 13 Apr 2012 at 11:18

ubersonic said:
When tank misses the punch at 12 seconds it leaves an opening that would have turned against him easily in a "real" fight. If it wasn't for the UFC's rules the fight would easily have gone the other way at multiple points (assuming the rules were not con-straining tank ofc, knowing his style they prob were, im just making a point)

What were the UFC now allowing back then that a real fight would allow to occur? Find me a legitimate fight where an Aikido warrior beats a wrestler/boxer when presented with a Best Vs Best match up.

The IPB · 13 Apr 2012 at 11:27

w1lliam said:
Best Art for fitness?

Not really interested in throwing kicks and punches. Aikido looks good but doesnt seem geared towards fitness. I'm probably wrong though...

Judo will get you super fit

Banzai_Joe · 13 Apr 2012 at 11:41

hurfdurf said:
First off lol that you think his style is "brawling".

I lol that you think he doesn't. That's ALL he does, he wades in guns blazing. He leaves huge openings that a discplined fighter would probably exploit quite readily [see my next comment]

Second of all, what techniques do you think had him beat? Superior wretsling and BJJ or Ninjitsu warrior/Aikido nonsense?

Once again, matey......i'm NOT advocating aikido. But the technique that beat him were chokes etc, possibly from any of the ones you mentioned above.
The guy was infamous cos he was one of the first to gain status when UFC started, cos he did break the mould of not being a discplined fighter. He was a brawler plain and simple. When more martial artists joined in the UFC his 'brawling' started to lose effect.....hense his win/loss ratio.

I'd love to have an intelligent conversation with you, and share honest opinion, but you're so blinkered into slamming arts you have no real knowledge or experience of. I've not slated any, i just defended your flaming of aikido, because on that subject i know more than you.
I wouldn't challenge you on motor racing cos i know bugger all about it. You seem to not get that.

Banzai_Joe · 13 Apr 2012 at 11:42

Dkore-DeX said:
Judo will get you super fit

Out of all the MA's i'd studied aikido was the least fitness oriented. For that reason, i'd say choose something else.

ubersonic · 13 Apr 2012 at 12:24

hurfdurf said:
What were the UFC now allowing back then that a real fight would allow to occur?

What?

hurfdurf said:
Find me a legitimate fight where an Aikido warrior beats a wrestler/boxer when presented with a Best Vs Best match up.

Im not even going to bother posting a let me Google that for you link, I mean c'mon.

olivier renault · 13 Apr 2012 at 13:57

Boxing.

I did some Judo, that was actually a lot of fun, throwing people and rolling around. Actually served me well at school.

Tried Taekwon Do. That was all right, but it was all 'non-contact', learning patterns. Got bored.

Really, boxing is good, and is good for stamina and general work out. I need to get back to it. Maybe Thai Boxing, but that's pretty brutal.

w1lliam · 13 Apr 2012 at 14:16

Dkore-DeX said:
Judo will get you super fit

Thanks will have a look.

Banzai_Joe said:
Out of all the MA's i'd studied aikido was the least fitness oriented. For that reason, i'd say choose something else.

Aikido looked interesting but it didnt look like a proper fitness workout.

Banzai_Joe · 13 Apr 2012 at 14:23

w1lliam said:
Thanks will have a look.

Aikido looked interesting but it didnt look like a proper fitness workout.

Yeah, it's not really. If you look around you may see quite a lot of senior aikidoka that are very...err...portly shall we say.

Their skill is in tai sabaki, or their economy of body movement.

ShortWarning · 13 Apr 2012 at 14:58

ubersonic said:
What?

In that fight (and in all early UFCs) the only rules were - No biting, no fish hooking and no eye gouging.

That is literally it, you could punch someone in the throat and kick them in the nuts to your hearts content.

Banzai_Joe · 13 Apr 2012 at 14:59

Ardmanz said:
In that fight (and in all early UFCs) the only rules were - No biting, no fish hooking and no eye gouging.

That is literally it, you could punch someone in the throat and kick them in the nuts to your hearts content.

lol....nice! :eek:

ShortWarning · 13 Apr 2012 at 15:41

Banzai_Joe said:
lol....nice!

Yea, it wasn't really a sport back then. It was only created to show that Gracie Jiu Jitsu was "the best martial art".

Threepwood · 13 Apr 2012 at 15:45

w1lliam · 13 Apr 2012 at 16:00

Banzai_Joe said:
Yeah, it's not really. If you look around you may see quite a lot of senior aikidoka that are very...err...portly shall we say.
Their skill is in tai sabaki, or their economy of body movement.

I'm looking at Judo currently, is there something else that may fit me better? Something like Aikido with emphasis on fitness as well.

Banzai_Joe · 13 Apr 2012 at 16:10

Aikido can certinaly be tiring, but as an art to increase your fitness level, not so much imho. If aikido really interests you then try it....and maybe do other stuff to increase your stamina.
Clubs vary, you may get a beastmaster of an instructor who insists of giving you a warmup circuit before starting the class properly....much as a lot of karate classes do.

Moley · 13 Apr 2012 at 16:11

I'm thinking of getting back into Martial Arts - not done anything for the best part of 12 years - but now I'm a bit older than I used to be (I am 41 this year) I guess I'm not going to be looking at anything too high impact. As a kid I trained in Karate, Judo, Aikido and Ju-Jitsu but now I'm thinking of trying the Chinese arts - Fujian White Crane Kung Fu and perhaps some Tai Chi Chuan.

Banzai_Joe · 13 Apr 2012 at 16:14

Tai Chi is great....my friend teaches this. He taught me the short form, that was actually quite long, but its very therapeutic.
The sparring is also good too.