Thinking of upgrading you GPU, grab a 980TI second hand seriously (secret 980Ti admiration thread)

[Doom112]

I fell sorry from people in denial and who felt that Fury X got better than GTX 980 Ti. Fury X is one of the worst high end GPU.

 

[DarrenM343]

It comes down to what people are prepared to pay, nothing wrong with that imo for certain models - they are fantastic cards.

Makes me laugh at the "supprised it's lasted so long" the 1080 isn't exactly miles ahead lol

Very true and we each value something differently. If someone only interested in the FPS counter the 1080 is still 20-30% faster like for like which may not seem a lot but for me it's the other differences, the newer technology, the new/improved features (like DX12 support), the probable smoother gameplay that then makes me value an older card much less. I also think people don't look at the warranty closely either, or lack of, and from what I see few even care how old a card is (how long it's been used for), ie, the going used price seems to be x amount whether it was bought 8 months ago or 2 years ago which is daft. Second hand stuff is always a risk generally too and at the prices used GPU's go for, considering what I've said above they're not worth the risk IMO

 

[nashathedog]

I can't wait until the 1080ti comes out, even if I can get just get £200 for my 980ti I'll be very happy, hopefully next gen the 1080ti stands it's ground again



It's really not worth doing stock vs stock, as the guy in the video stated most if not all 980Ti's are overclocked out the box and they all have pretty good overclocking headroom on top of that even, a well overclocked 980Ti will sometimes even pull ahead of an overclocked 1070.

All the video tells us is was what we already know, The 980ti is the faster card overall and the Fury cards aren't worth overclocking, If they could hold a decent overclock they'd have a much better overview as it does okay stock v stock but showing just a 3 or 4 frame increase in comparison to the Ti's overclock which is sometimes in to double figures makes it game over. Nothing new though. Overall the 980ti is faster but both games have wins if you look at a wider selection of games. I've only got a cut-down Fury and like the X overclocking only gets me a few frames which isn't worth bothering with, I prefer to give my card an easy life so when I sell it on I can do so knowing I haven't abused it. The only time I bother to overclock is when I want to run a bench for an OCUK benching thread so it's never running it's overclock for more than 20 minutes.

I nearly always run it at stock, though, as it's fast enough for nearly all situations when gaming at present.

Same here, which is why I always buy overclocked versions of the card I'm getting when available.

 

[Kirby Wurm]

I have no idea why anyone would buy a used 980ti for 280 and not get a 330 quid 1070

Ok if you still have a 980ti fine but buying one now :/

Perhaps because very few places stock 1070's for less than £390?

 

[Toss3]

980ti still a great card at the right price.

But people still paying £300 for them are crackers.

Why? A decent £300 GTX 980 Ti is going to overclock and perform better than a cheap £300 GTX 1070.

 

[Griffildur]

Why? A decent £300 GTX 980 Ti is going to overclock and perform better than a cheap £300 GTX 1070.

Because they are old now, there won't be much warranty left if at all and most will be second hand which presents a risk.

Might as well go with a new card with warranty, even if it costs 20-25% more.

 

[Toss3]

Because they are old now, there won't be much warranty left if at all and most will be second hand which presents a risk.

Might as well go with a new card with warranty, even if it costs 20-25% more.

Some come with a 5 year warranty, so that's not really a problem (especially if you buy a brand like EVGA).

 

[StrongSad]

Completely agree with that.
THat's the key. I'd always buy the latest cards but even I agree the Ti is a good card for the right price. Although I don't look at the second hand prices I'd guess as usual few are actually the right price.

I keep seeing this. £300 for a second hand Ti

I bought my Amp from a last ditch OCUK sale for £319.

I did not have the extra £50 to justify the then cheapest 1070 however I do not regret it at all.

However I saw one go for £315 the other day.....

 

[melmac]

I fell sorry from people in denial and who felt that Fury X got better than GTX 980 Ti. Fury X is one of the worst high end GPU.

I feel sorry for you, whatever evil AMD did to you must have been terrible!! I hope that one day you can recover and lead a normal life. Just keep thinking positive and the end result, and one day, you too, could look at AMD without hate in your heart.



Or just keep posting you normal posts!! Your anti AMD diatribe is nearly as entertaining as Flopper's spaced out pro AMD love posts.

 

[mahius]

Considering that a 980ti is pretty much on par with a 1070 and even beats it when both are overclocked, I would highly recommend buying one since they were cheaper than 1070s... if you can find one available and a a decent price. No more than £350 for the top-end (considering how much a 1070 costs brand new) ones.

I would have had one by now, had OCUK not ran out of stock back in September (I placed the order and we discovered no stock a few weeks later).

 

[Griffildur]

Considering that a 980ti is pretty much on par with a 1070 and even beats it when both are overclocked, I would highly recommend buying one since they were cheaper than 1070s... if you can find one available and a a decent price. No more than £350 for the top-end (considering how much a 1070 costs brand new) ones.

I would have had one by now, had OCUK not ran out of stock back in September (I placed the order and we discovered no stock a few weeks later).

350 for a second hand 980TI? I don't see the good sense in that, sorry.

Better pick up a brand new 1070, heck pick up a 1080 at a little over 500. There is no reason at all to pay that much for such a card.

 

[Zeed]

I'm waiting for Vega to jump back on AMD Mostly due to full DX12 and VR support. Ok 980ti is for vr but not even trying to install W10 for dx12 since its slower than dx11 on 980ti heh.

Besides that have that NV bug with driver crashing when i'm gaming in in 3D never had this **** on AMD :/

 

[llamadal]

Zed, I think you will find it runs perfectly fine on win10, take off the tinfoil hat mate. Hardly any dx12 stuff around anyway.

 

[IvanDobskey]

The driver optimisation will drop off sharply for the 980ti in the coming months.

Why anyone would consider paying 300 quid for one is absolutely beyond comprehension to me.

The 1070 is cooler, quieter and will open up a lead on the 980ti with driver updates. A brand new 1070 can be had for £350.

Ok, if you find one for the right price (under 200) then fair enough, it's still a great card.

I really don't understand some people.

 

[llamadal]

The driver optimisation won't drop off for a very long time.

As it currently stands and has from release (not what may happen in the future), an overclocked 980ti beats out a 1070.

Most 1070s are around £380 so if someone has the chance of picking up a faster card for £100 less then so be it. If priced evenly then it would make more sense.

 

[IvanDobskey]

So you are advocating purchasing previous gen second hand product for similar price to brand new current gen? Seriously?

When i buy something second hand that has potentially been used and abused, i fully expect to be paying considerably less than a brand new sealed product.

Most used 980tis have likely been heavily overclocked.

Would you buy a second hand car that had been thrashed for similar price to a brand new showroom condition latest model?

 

[easyrider]

The driver optimisation won't drop off for a very long time.

As it currently stands and has from release (not what may happen in the future), an overclocked 980ti beats out a 1070.

Most 1070s are around £380 so if someone has the chance of picking up a faster card for £100 less then so be it. If priced evenly then it would make more sense.

The 1070 can be overclocked to over 2ghz on the core...

Its false economy...A card without warranty and has been used and abused can easily fail.

Meaning no replacement and a further £350 to replace with a 1070

Making the cost GTX 1080 money

A 5 year or 3 year warranty...Drive optimisation, Noise, heat , power make the 100 quid extra worth it.

If you own a 980ti already then that is a different story...Run it into the ground

 

[Things change I've changed]

There must be a lot of really loud and unreliable 980Ti's around that I'm not aware of then, I guess what people are saying is just don't buy second hand GPU's in general? Seems to be very popular on MM and don't really hear many horror stories, I've bought many second-hand GPU's off MM over the years, if your strapped for cash and you can save a good £100 getting a gpu that will beat a 1070 I think it's worth a punt.

 

[easyrider]

There must be a lot of really loud and unreliable 980Ti's around that I'm not aware of then, I guess what people are saying is just don't buy second hand GPU's in general? Seems to be very popular on MM and don't really hear many horror stories, I've bought many second-hand GPU's off MM over the years, if your strapped for cash and you can save a good £100 getting a gpu that will beat a 1070 I think it's worth a punt.

I think its worth a punt on a used 780ti for £120 as a stop gap card with no warranty...

But £270 on a out of warranty 980ti doesn't make any sense to me.

only 6GB ram too... :/

People in MM are selling 1070's for £300-£320 with 3 year warranties

Best to get one of them? No ?

 

[Things change I've changed]

I think its worth a punt on a used 780ti for £120 as a stop gap card with no warranty...

But £270 on a out of warranty 980ti doesn't make any sense to me.

only 6GB ram too... :/

People in MM are selling 1070's for £300-£320 with 3 year warranties

Best to get one of them? No ?

Honest question, is 6GB of vram really that limiting today? I wouldn't really be using a 980Ti for 4k for example.