This Business and Moment...

GinG said:
You sound like a very good mate toshj and offering a very good opportunity for your friend to do well and go far...such a shame he is easily swayed by other members of the family.

Hope he sticks at it, not because I enjoy your updates every now and then however for the sake of your friend to achieve something!
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Yeah I was thinking the same. I don't think I would have had the patience. So fair play.
 
Weighing up if I should try and go for a free MSc or PgDip in Information Capability Management via work.

Only "exceptional" staff with experience but not the educational pre req's get the MSc, the PgDip appears to be "well performing" staff with no pre req's.

I don't think I could handle not being accepted as exceptional :D.

I'm thinking as it is free, I might as well go for both and see if I get lucky with either, it's my field and free.

MSc is 1-5 years part time or the PgDip is 24-2 years.

Is an MSc worth it over a PgDip? I never attended uni so not sure how these would stack up as educational quals?
 
GinG said:
You sound like a very good mate toshj and offering a very good opportunity for your friend to do well and go far...such a shame he is easily swayed by other members of the family.

Hope he sticks at it, not because I enjoy your updates every now and then however for the sake of your friend to achieve something!
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Very kind of you to say, and I'm pleased to report that he's come back (slightly) reinvigorated and is forging ahead. We've had a couple of decent things pick up so far this week, so hoping that by the end of the month he'd have hit his first year target with three months to spare.

Also, I'm trying to gently persuade him to work on slightly more senior mandates if possible. It's a natural approach to take in your first year to focus on the more junior end of the market so as not to get caught out with your limited market knowledge (I did exactly this when I first started), but should he stick around next year he'll likely do really well for himself and for the firm. By the end of this year he'll have made almost the same amount of placements I have but my revenue will be three times greater - that's the beauty of the more senior mandates. A mate of mine - whom I've worked with previously - will have generated x3 as much revenue as I'll do this year, purely as a result of focusing on a lucrative part of our market! Suffice to say I'm trying to get him to join too!

The first year wobble is a tough one to get over, but he's in the right environment to do well and enjoy it. I've told him it's just a job and he should treat it as such - he's been getting panicky and developing anxiety out of the office due to his work load, and I've tried to reinforce how little it all means in the bigger picture - it's just a job, and I wouldn't want my friend to be unhappy. This seems to be calming him down somewhat. I've got a picture of what I think this little firm could look like - fun, relaxed but focused, professional, good at what we do and very flexible whilst also being profitable - and I reckon he'll be a big part of that.
 
Phate said:
Several reasons. I was very much "done" with the UK. Quite fed up of slogging it out for hours and hours only for everything to be ridiculously expensive and then taxed to oblivion so at the end of it you have little left to show for it.

Tired of the general public and the constant idiocy and bureaucracy everywhere.

Brexit was another reason I didn't come back. I'm genuinely embarrassed by the legitimized racism which occurred from it all.

I was fed up of the weather as well! :p

I am not close to my family, well most of it. They cause me a lot of stress. So all of this tied in with the fact that my girlfriend is Portuguese and missed Portugal we decided to relocate before we went travelling with the idea that we would set back up in Portugal rather than the UK.

I have always wanted to learn another language as well, and also try living in another country. So all of it made a lot of sense. :)

Right now I am earning a quarter of what I was at my last full time role, but I am a lot happier. It's just a better way of life. The people are nicer, the weather is better, the food is amazing. Portugal is an incredible country. The cost of living is significantly lower than anywhere else in Europe. You do not need a lot of money to survive and save cash here.

So yeah, several reasons. I don't miss the UK in the slightest. I sometimes miss the ridiculous money for contracting but not enough to warrant relocating again. If I could get one working remotely that would be good but this current job is good as its filling holes in my technical knowledge which have appeared since I have been out of the game.

Before I was an SCCM/Desktop infrastructure specialist. I did a lot of work in Desktop management, both in virtual and physical. App virtualization and layering, all that kind of shizzle. Now I'm just a service desk monkey dealing with whatever comes through a mailbox! So it's a step back if you look at the facts on paper but it honestly doesn't bother me. I was petrified of not being able to find a job due to my language and would be forced to return to the UK. Fortunately not though :)



I enjoy it as well! It's frustrating but it's fun. :)
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Ill be grey by 20.
 
I've got to this point now....

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More developments at my place. It looks like my manager (the service desk manager) and the Technical Director are looking to leave, possibly very very soon. My manager as soon as the end of the week.

They're leaving due to the IT Manager and his micro management ways. If this happens, then I'm quite sure the IT Manager will push for me to become the Service Desk Manager.

As nice as that would be for my CV and long term benefits I really do not want to deal with him micro managing me everyday. I respond very badly to it, normally to a point where I end up having to apologise when its the micro managers fault in the first place due to me snapping etc!

So I am now weighing up my options. I don't want to quit as if I take time finding another job I will be bored senseless at home.

I think I'm going to bide my time and begin looking again but for something more ideal to what I wanted. Consulting either remotely or partially remotely. Something challenging and stick it out here whilst I look for it. My job contract here has an initial 6 month trial bases meaning I have to server very little to zero notice and if I find something else there are no hard feelings.

I am also tempted to start my own IT Consulting business. But don't know if I have the balls to do it when I have dependencies.

Ah fun times.
 
Phate... propose something yourself. Write a proposal plan just in case this does happen and you lay the cards on the table. It appears you have the power in your hands here and it's in favour for you... play your cards right, extra money and something you can cope with...
 
mrbell1984 said:
Phate... propose something yourself. Write a proposal plan just in case this does happen and you lay the cards on the table. It appears you have the power in your hands here and it's in favour for you... play your cards right, extra money and something you can cope with...
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This has also crossed my mind. The thing is this department (of 6, including the IT Manager) has had 11 (and soon to be 12) new staff in 10 months. And this is due to the IT Manager himself. People lasting on average 2 months before they have had enough of him.

So yes whilst the power will be in my hands as they'll be looking to make me the a manager. This is also the same company who vowed that my lack of Portuguese wouldn't be an issue, then the same guy directly used that to leverage me to a lower salary.

Tread carefully, I will.
 
You defiantly have this to an advantage from what I have read. I was talking to someone about this yesterday and it was mentioned when there's a lot of staff leaving the CEO has to ask the self why.

Most of the time it's because of the below manager not been able to manage. I know I've been in the same situation! I'm very loyal to companies and when I'm upset about something people know!

Good luck with this and if I were in your shoes get in there first before anyone else does.. dog eat dog.

OR... you jump ship like the rest of them... and find something where they appreciate you more.
 
Thanks for the words of support :)

I'll put together a rough plan and "terms" in case they do approach me with it and try to dictate how I would want it to go. I can't see it doing much good. I think they would say yes just to get me to sign then change things. But in the mean time I can keep looking or decide if I want to go it on my own.

:)
 
how hard is it to get into computer develepment? ie web development and the likes.

looking for jobs and ive come across a number of adverts such as. http://www.careerbuilder.co.uk/INTL...dium=aggregator&utm_campaign=organic&show=yes

is there a better way of going about getting into this sort of career?

for the last 13 years ive been a Design Engineer (thats just the title ive been given but in reality im what id describe as a CAD Technician)

ive trained on a number of different CAD packages (Tekla, Inventor, Autocad, Revit) but am finding it hard to even get my foot in the door of places as i dont posess any university degree's

I have a HND in Electronic Engineering but this is the only higher education bit i have.

im thinking that i may have to change my career as it seems that experience>textbook learning (or at least in my case it feels like this)

ive had a few interviews in the past few years but theyve not amounted to anything (currently awaiting decision on a 2nd interview but am not hopefull as initially it was me + 1 other being interviewed and now its another 2 people that are being interviewed - which only came into play after my interview)
 
mrbell1984 said:
They might not approach you with it but they may expect you to jump forward with suggestions. Most companies don't listen anyway but it's worth a try..

You have everything to gain if your suggestion works. It's power of the word play.
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An update.

In light of my boss on the verge of handing in her notice she also expected them to offer me her job. She told me her salary. She is on €400 a month more than me.

This is good news. This means if it comes to it I have ammunition to get the same or more money.
 
joelk2 said:
how hard is it to get into computer develepment? ie web development and the likes.

looking for jobs and ive come across a number of adverts such as. http://www.careerbuilder.co.uk/INTL...dium=aggregator&utm_campaign=organic&show=yes

is there a better way of going about getting into this sort of career?

for the last 13 years ive been a Design Engineer (thats just the title ive been given but in reality im what id describe as a CAD Technician)

ive trained on a number of different CAD packages (Tekla, Inventor, Autocad, Revit) but am finding it hard to even get my foot in the door of places as i dont posess any university degree's

I have a HND in Electronic Engineering but this is the only higher education bit i have.

im thinking that i may have to change my career as it seems that experience>textbook learning (or at least in my case it feels like this)

ive had a few interviews in the past few years but theyve not amounted to anything (currently awaiting decision on a 2nd interview but am not hopefull as initially it was me + 1 other being interviewed and now its another 2 people that are being interviewed - which only came into play after my interview)
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Can you not up your game in your current field. Web or software development is even more reliant on experience and a degree. I'm not saying not do it. Just be aware is a steep learning curve with continuous learning required.
 
Phate said:
An update.

In light of my boss on the verge of handing in her notice she also expected them to offer me her job. She told me her salary. She is on €400 a month more than me.

This is good news. This means if it comes to it I have ammunition to get the same or more money.
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Fantastic! pus for more you are entitled to it! Lay the cards on the table. Say due to the merge of the roles / staff leaving / money been saved in the company for you to accept a role which is amalgamated you would like a pay rise to accommodate the extra work and responsibility.
 
Lost out on a job in another organisation. After meeting with the interviewers to discuss what I can do to improve they revealed that it went to an internal candidate :mad:

Anyway, just found out my colleague (the same level as me) is off somewhere for £15k more because he BS'd the interview. I wouldn't normally be feeling so bad as I know I'm more skilled but have I my own job interview tomorrow at the same wage that I'm currently on (but closer to home) and feeling a bit "stuck".
 
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