This Business and Moment...

Got a good offer through today, principal engineer for a large company who have a lot of money to spend and want to bring a product to market, they want me to help build it.

Initially I was in two minds, it's not the sort of company I'd normally work for - but they're offering decent money (150k) and there's some people managment too - I'll have a team of 5x engineers under me, which will be nice to have. I also absolutely cannot stand my current role.

So i'll probably go for it and see what I can do with it for a few years, I'm on a mission to buy a house at the moment so I really need to just focus on that..

It's also fully remote, so I don't need to be near London which is a huge bonus at the moment..
 
Screeeech said:
Got a good offer through today, principal engineer for a large company who have a lot of money to spend and want to bring a product to market, they want me to help build it.

Initially I was in two minds, it's not the sort of company I'd normally work for - but they're offering decent money (150k) and there's some people managment too - I'll have a team of 5x engineers under me, which will be nice to have. I also absolutely cannot stand my current role.

So i'll probably go for it and see what I can do with it for a few years, I'm on a mission to buy a house at the moment so I really need to just focus on that..

It's also fully remote, so I don't need to be near London which is a huge bonus at the moment..
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Congratulations! £150K for a fully remote role in the UK sounds decent. 10 years ago, I was paid less than 1/2 of that by a big US tech company (in the UK) for a role that is maybe 1.5 levels below your new role. Hopefully companies in UK are (finally) seeing the value in paying good software folks good money. They'll make far more from your contributions than what it'll cost to employ you.
 
jon86 said:
Congratulations! £150K for a fully remote role in the UK sounds decent. 10 years ago, I was paid less than 1/2 of that by a big US tech company (in the UK) for a role that is maybe 1.5 levels below your new role. Hopefully companies in UK are (finally) seeing the value in paying good software folks good money. They'll make far more from your contributions than what it'll cost to employ you.
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Yeah it's good comp, and an interesting role - one of those roles where they have a vision to go and do something and I get to put my name on it and own a big chunk of it, which is very much how I like it.

But we'll see how it pans out.. I'm on a 3 month notice so I've got 3 months of literally nothing to do as my current role is a joke, so in September I'll find out!
 
Screeeech said:
Yeah it's good comp, and an interesting role - one of those roles where they have a vision to go and do something and I get to put my name on it and own a big chunk of it, which is very much how I like it.

But we'll see how it pans out.. I'm on a 3 month notice so I've got 3 months of literally nothing to do as my current role is a joke, so in September I'll find out!
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Were you headhunted? £150k is where my interest starts peaking.
 
ChrisD. said:
Were you headhunted? £150k is where my interest starts peaking.
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No - just applied for a role straight out, it's a slight raise from what I'm already on. They're after somebody with very specific skills - sort of stuff you only really get from a big tech company which I happen to have, and the experience of leading technical projects at that sort of scale,

I think one reason they're paying this sort of money, is that the thing they're trying to build is in a hell of a state as they didn't have the right people, so my first job is basically to tear everything apart and start from scratch, which I like the sound of.
 
Screeeech said:
I think one reason they're paying this sort of money, is that the thing they're trying to build is in a hell of a state as they didn't have the right people, so my first job is basically to tear everything apart and start from scratch, which I like the sound of.
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Knowing some of what you've done in the past from previous posts, can't help but wonder if it's my place as they've got this awful network automation platform which needs rebuilding and were looking for someone to do it.
 
Throrik said:
Knowing some of what you've done in the past from previous posts, can't help but wonder if it's my place as they've got this awful network automation platform which needs rebuilding and were looking for someone to do it.
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Could be :p

It's datacentre stuff I'll be working on, mostly strategy, design and making sure that what gets built makes sense, as it sounds like it's in a really bad state - which is the sort of stuff I like to work on,
 
Funky-Melon said:
Bit of a tricky one, I work in electronics engineering, designing schematics, PCB design and write test software etc but don't have an electronics degree.

I started as an electronics technician 10 years ago and worked my way up, so a bit unsure what to go for next as I don't really feel 'qualified' to apply for electronics engineer roles.
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Check out MBDA, missiles are big business at the moment ;)
 
Whilst I've put the feelers out for a role in the middle east (though NZ has started to appeal) I've been accepted on a level 5 apprenticeship for project data analytics for senior leaders. It's not for me to become an analyst (I don't fancy a pay cut :p ) but it'll add another string to my bow and in this data-centric world we're moving into, especially in major infrastructure projects which is the sector I work in we tend to rely on gut instinct and "rough" data. The draw of it is that when we work with technical partners and consultants I'll feel more confident in how to use the data to help make decisions, but certainly to learn how to apply and use knowledge effectively rather than reinventing the wheel which we seem to be really good at.

Might be completely pointless, but it certainly is looking interesting certainly in my field (senior leadership, strategy and innovation).
 
Boss had a bit of a tantrum after I handed my notice in,

He got all upset because I hadn't come to him with the problems or given him a chance to fix them, but to be honest - the guy has barely spoken to me since November, so it's not like he really valued my contribution or potential, and the fact I can make my own mind up - and have done, based on the company just being a load of trash.

On one hand I do feel a bit bad (a little) for not going to them to discuss why I wasn't happy, but to be honest - about 2-3 months after I joined I realised it wasn't for me, so doing that would have just been a massive waste of time, as I'm experienced enough to know whether it's worth having that conversation, vs just moving on and getting out.
 
Screeeech said:
Boss had a bit of a tantrum after I handed my notice in,

He got all upset because I hadn't come to him with the problems or given him a chance to fix them, but to be honest - the guy has barely spoken to me since November, so it's not like he really valued my contribution or potential, and the fact I can make my own mind up - and have done, based on the company just being a load of trash.

On one hand I do feel a bit bad (a little) for not going to them to discuss why I wasn't happy, but to be honest - about 2-3 months after I joined I realised it wasn't for me, so doing that would have just been a massive waste of time, as I'm experienced enough to know whether it's worth having that conversation, vs just moving on and getting out.
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Always funny when they come out of the wood work like this.
 
dLockers said:
Always funny when they come out of the wood work like this.
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tbh I knew he was gonna kick off, he's also one of the (many) reasons I'm leaving..

I just think it's funny how he tried to turn it on me, as in "I can't believe you've gone and done this without saying anything" whereas a smart manager might not be as quick to start blaming, but take a bit more time to understand the circumstances which caused it - such as the business not having a clue what it wants to be, what the strategy is moving forward etc.
 
Screeeech said:
Boss had a bit of a tantrum after I handed my notice in,

He got all upset because I hadn't come to him with the problems or given him a chance to fix them, but to be honest - the guy has barely spoken to me since November, so it's not like he really valued my contribution or potential, and the fact I can make my own mind up - and have done, based on the company just being a load of trash.

On one hand I do feel a bit bad (a little) for not going to them to discuss why I wasn't happy, but to be honest - about 2-3 months after I joined I realised it wasn't for me, so doing that would have just been a massive waste of time, as I'm experienced enough to know whether it's worth having that conversation, vs just moving on and getting out.
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Perfect.. I would be the same.. You know when it's worth fixing and when it isn't!

We've had hiccups with staff just coming to me and handing in their notice who seemed very unhappy.. the last thing I do is start blaming them, I am the opposite, if we've let that go unnoticed then that's our problem and if that person was critical to the business, I'd doubly kick myself and expect to come under some serious heat from the CEO..
 
Screeeech said:
tbh I knew he was gonna kick off, he's also one of the (many) reasons I'm leaving..

I just think it's funny how he tried to turn it on me, as in "I can't believe you've gone and done this without saying anything" whereas a smart manager might not be as quick to start blaming, but take a bit more time to understand the circumstances which caused it - such as the business not having a clue what it wants to be, what the strategy is moving forward etc.
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If anything this is exactly what you want, whilst it's not nice to deal with face to face it re-affirms your decision. A good manager would be pleased but also slightly sad that they are losing a good employee and would try to keep you on.
 
Screeeech said:
I just think it's funny how he tried to turn it on me, as in "I can't believe you've gone and done this without saying anything" whereas a smart manager might not be as quick to start blaming, but take a bit more time to understand the circumstances which caused it
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Absolutely, I'd expect a sensible manager to say "Oh dear that isn't good, I'm sorry you're leaving - would you mind telling me what's led you to this decision so we can improve it?". Possibly even to try and bargain you back in, but honestly the focus should be on understanding
 
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