Yet recruiters use AI to select CV's and send out generic automated rejection emails....But don't like it when we use AI to bypass their ATS... Lol.
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Yet recruiters use AI to select CV's and send out generic automated rejection emails....But don't like it when we use AI to bypass their ATS... Lol.
Got an offer today, after negotiating the ICT Cloud and Infrastructure role.
They gave me their best offer, I be taking a paycut which will be in the double figuresI have till Monday to accept their offer, looks I be rejecting it. @Orangeade As you are familiar with Switzerland this would take me below the higher earners bracket if I took the offer.
I really like the place and the job role but I am not financially handicapping myself again.
Hopefully the other place will get back to me on Monday with an offer for their Senior role.
Sorry not sure what higher tax rate is? 180k? That would seem extremely low for 20 years of experience so can understand reticence.
Did you accept the other job in the end?
For myself I'm trapped with golden handcuffs, my job is fairly boring now but pays an utterly insane amount even for Switzerland. But I'm mid thirties now, I feel the need to have a more exciting life than endlessly going out with the finance bros etc.
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I'm prepping for an interview today.
I'm only moving as my current job is bad and the management worse- hard-charging, but unfocused. I've heard The Boss took a kicking over performance earlier this week, and suspect the whole group might get canned soon.
I'm not expecting to get it as it's a bit outside my usual area (info governamce), but worth a shot. It's all experience!
I'm only moving as my current job is bad and the management worse- hard-charging, but unfocused. I've heard The Boss took a kicking over performance earlier this week, and suspect the whole group might get canned soon.
I'm not expecting to get it as it's a bit outside my usual area (info governamce), but worth a shot. It's all experience!
Below 120K, yeah it was low.
They made me another offer but I have already signed the contract for the other job offering more and closer to home.
Got to sent them the rest of the paperwork but I start on April 1st.
I made the call at the end of the year to bin work for 6-12 months, maybe more if I don't get too bored. My finances, hard earned I hasten to add, allow me to do this and enjoy some time doing what I want. After pretty much 40 years solid with no more than 2 weeks of holiday the longest time off, it was time for me time. I've been travelling, and reading loads which has been epic without the worry of looking at emails, slack and dealing with messages that start with "sorry to bother you, but...."
I am not sure I will come back full time. I do board advisory stuff which takes no more than 3 days a month to keep me fresh and some mentoring both of which I love so for now it's get up when I want, have lunch with retired friends and drive my car to interesting places where I can enjoy it.
I am not sure I will come back full time. I do board advisory stuff which takes no more than 3 days a month to keep me fresh and some mentoring both of which I love so for now it's get up when I want, have lunch with retired friends and drive my car to interesting places where I can enjoy it.
Below 120k? Are you still on quellensteuer? That's an outrageously low amount, we pay graduates 100k + 30% bonus even for ****** roles.
I can understand you rejecting that, it's a derisory offer.
Congrats on the new role, it sounds (sorry if I come across as cheeky) like you need to start doing some serious networking immediately so that you can unlock some other opportunities. I really cannot recommend it enough to foreigners it pays dividends like nothing else.
And for the love of God learn German!!!!!
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Close friend texted me today - He's been made redundant Friday afternoon via email, and the company has closed doors. ****
He's been complaining about being undervalued there for a couple of years so hopefully this is a chance to step up to better things, but it's not fun going from employed to full time jobseeking over a weekend.
He's been complaining about being undervalued there for a couple of years so hopefully this is a chance to step up to better things, but it's not fun going from employed to full time jobseeking over a weekend.
They are NGO hence the low salary.
Believe it or not some of my jobs I've got here is through people I know. Even the new job I'm starting. My friend is one of the bosses there who I met in German class 2 years ago. But he had nothing to do with the recruitment process.
As for the German thing, I've been working on it for years but if an opportunity came up for the Italian or French part of Switzerland. I happily pack my bags move there and start again.
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Close friend texted me today - He's been made redundant Friday afternoon via email, and the company has closed doors. ****
He's been complaining about being undervalued there for a couple of years so hopefully this is a chance to step up to better things, but it's not fun going from employed to full time jobseeking over a weekend.
Spoke to my friend yesterday, got the same due to a restructure and loosing a government contract.
He had been there for 10 years, I told him never be loyal to any company. As they are ready to drop you whenever.
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Sad but true. My current company is very people focused and caring, generally. But I'm well aware that if I escalate my current grievances and threaten to leave... I'll be treated as a problem to get rid of. If people aren't happy with the pay, same thing - let them carry on until they get fed up and quit, then replace.
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I've put some feelers out with a recruiter that has poached several people from our business over the years.
I'm wondering how I find others that are similar - I only know this guy because he's tried to poach me before.
He was horrified that my package was just salary with no additional pension, car allowance, etc.
I'm wondering how I find others that are similar - I only know this guy because he's tried to poach me before.
He was horrified that my package was just salary with no additional pension, car allowance, etc.
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A few months after moving roles, I'm far happier. 30k paycut was and is still taking some use to, but I see it as a step back to take a leap forward. That said, the quality of life is so much better at the moment, and the benefits I get are far greater (i.e. health care for the family etc...). It's a bit of a whirlwind to try and learn everything, but I'm getting stuck in which I'm enjoying, it's actually quite a relief to be in a large business where I don't have to lead a bunch of ignorant people on how not to be sociopaths (previous leadership).
I do a feel a little lost, just owing to the sheer size of moving from a few hundred employees to 10s of thousands of them! However, I think there's going to be a lot of opportunity for growth if I put a bit of effort in.
I do a feel a little lost, just owing to the sheer size of moving from a few hundred employees to 10s of thousands of them! However, I think there's going to be a lot of opportunity for growth if I put a bit of effort in.
I helped my wife with a job application. She's dyslexic and really struggles writing down her experience without waffling. The application portal said not to use AI and they will reject any applications they deem to be done with AI. What I did was use what she wrote on her CV, I put it through ChatGPT, had it hashed a few times, then put it into Quilbot's AI detection tool and I rewrote the parts it said was AI generated. This was for the CV, and the online application process which was essentially evidencing experience to meet their minimum criteria for the role. She got offered the job and starts in a few months.
Interestingly I helped her with 3 applications, one was rejected during the automated screening where there are given scenarios and you have multi guess options. She was offered jobs for the other two. I'm considered an industry SME, I've written white papers, I'm often dragged in to help account teams in the US and APJ, I've helped develop exams, and I could apply for 100 roles and I'd probably struggle to get more than 5 return calls. But then I guess the tech industry is a different beast to the kind of roles she was applying for (mainly public sector).
I'm handcuffed now by RSUs, but if my role is ever ever made redundant I'm utterly dreading finding a new job.