Caporegime
5% tax income i suppose!
Way down the line, if people manage to become energy independent then the cost for everyone else will have to go up.
This is getting ridiculous (energy prices - Strictly NO referrals!)
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5% tax income i suppose!
Way down the line, if people manage to become energy independent then the cost for everyone else will have to go up.
Soldato
No.
Would be prime for utility suppliers to offer a all inclusive option. One bill for utilities and including solar on your roof in that monthly bill.
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A cynical guess would be because they don't have any mates in the solar industry who could benefit from it
It doesn't matter what the Government wants.
The National Electrical grid CANNOT take on the sheer amount of incoming connections required.
I have a client who wants to build a 5MW Solar farm, connection to grid estimated to be complete by 2030... yes.. 8 YEARS to even get a connection to the grid. Would only take 3 months to build the solar farm.
The Connection application took a year and nearly 500k to get pushed through..
Is that 8 years because it's difficult to "wire up" a solar farm to the grid, or just because there's such a backlog?
The Tories got the rid of the subsidies because they don't like 'green crap' as Cameron said, they are the wrong party to have in charge if you are serious about the climate crisis: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/green-campaigners-slam-tory-scheme-6119173
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I would guess backlog, everyone wants their share of the subsidies. Haulage companies are falling over themselves to bid into capacity markets with a couple of gas engines. The entire World is queuing up to build offshore wind farms with delicious 25 year contracts. It's the Wild West for renewable energy carpet baggers. Yet none of these lavishly funded schemes provides security of supply because grid scale storage doesn't exist.
We complain about the expense now wait until the Deep State has done away with gas them the howls will be heard.
We complain about the expense now wait until the Deep State has done away with gas them the howls will be heard.
there is a backlog, snd this is exactly where the government can step in
Part Backlog and part lack of physical infrastructure in choke points on the grid
Exactly.
We have enough granted planning permissions to power most of the country utilising Solar, Wind and Battery storage. But no way to connect them to the grid to start feeding power to where it needs to go.
If there was NO limit on connecting to the grid, we would not be in the situation we are in today.
It’s not that there is a limit on connections, all the bottlenecks are in the ‘last mile’ of the connections.
There is a huge lack of skilled engineers within the DNOs to do the work and the process of getting all the legal paperwork in place for digging up peoples land to lay them. The latter is largely delayed by NIMBYism.
You should see all the campaigners lobbying against connecting the the wind farms off the coast of east Anglia to the grid via hurried cables that you can’t even see. Pure NIMBYism at its finest.
There is a huge lack of skilled engineers within the DNOs to do the work and the process of getting all the legal paperwork in place for digging up peoples land to lay them. The latter is largely delayed by NIMBYism.
You should see all the campaigners lobbying against connecting the the wind farms off the coast of east Anglia to the grid via hurried cables that you can’t even see. Pure NIMBYism at its finest.
Dont get me started on some DNO's.. lets call them Don't Need to Organise
Soldato
Kind of makes sense to me that rooftop solar would be less viable financially than larger scale renewable schemes. A lot of work installing the small scale panels on a roof, getting all the household level electrics and household sized inverter installed etc. Compare to a large scale farm or covering a warehouse roof where economies of scale kick in.
Seems to me like the only way to make it economically attractive at the moment is with increased government subsidies, but I'd probably argue that would be a bit of a waste - same amount of money would have more impact subsidising large scale windfarms or large solar farms covering a car park or warehouse roof etc.
I guess the only advantage would be no need for extra transmission infrastructure for domestic installations (at least until you reach a point where the amount of noisy power generated by hones in the middle of a summer day starts to overwhelm the capacity of the local network to feed back into the grid and potentially causes interference problems). If it's too expensive or takes too long to get larger schemes hooked up the the DNO then that seems like the real problem that needs solving.
Seems to me like the only way to make it economically attractive at the moment is with increased government subsidies, but I'd probably argue that would be a bit of a waste - same amount of money would have more impact subsidising large scale windfarms or large solar farms covering a car park or warehouse roof etc.
I guess the only advantage would be no need for extra transmission infrastructure for domestic installations (at least until you reach a point where the amount of noisy power generated by hones in the middle of a summer day starts to overwhelm the capacity of the local network to feed back into the grid and potentially causes interference problems). If it's too expensive or takes too long to get larger schemes hooked up the the DNO then that seems like the real problem that needs solving.
Soldato
Just to connect up to the nearby cable cost me seven grand.. yeah they are not in many people's good books I imagine.
Took a meter reading on 31st March then another today -They charged me £7.38 for three days 
Meter man is coming tomorrow to fit a smart one - I buckled under in the end.
Meter man is coming tomorrow to fit a smart one - I buckled under in the end.
Soldato
How come rememberTook a meter reading on 31st March then another today -They charged me £7.38 for three days
Meter man is coming tomorrow to fit a smart one - I buckled under in the end.
Soldato
Took a meter reading on 31st March then another today -They charged me £7.38 for three days
Meter man is coming tomorrow to fit a smart one - I buckled under in the end.
My parents are adamant they will stay on PAYG meters and for once it has worked out for them since the rates are pretty much the same now, so they resisted smart meters as well. I hear you can get smart PAYG meters, so maybe that will push them over the edge once OVO finally ends their THTC tariff.
Soldato
Your a joke Mate, comments like this reveal your true nature.