This thread is about Reddit actively trading irrefutable child porn.

Ascendancy said:
Nope.

What actually happened was

1) Forum that hates reddit started a campaign against it
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I'd debate that or at least say that this wasn't the reason for the outcry.


hurfdurf said:
SA is easily the best forum on the Internet and these kind of campaigns they get on demonstrate this. Reddit is currently a very powerful social media website and SA obliterated it and it's owners in less than 24 hours.
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Yeah, that's not what this is about and isn't helpful.

Why is this thread only being made today? This is like 2-3 days old, and reddit already took care of it?
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It's been months in the making, not 2 or 3 days in the making.
 
[FnG]magnolia;21262579 said:
e: in response to SuperBOB : Reddit's team aren't making an issue out of this, at least not without being heavily pushed.



1. The only reason as far as I know that SA even got involved was because of activity already happening on Reddit. This isn't anything to do with your perceived view of your ~ GLORIOUS FORUM ~ being attacked for no reason, it's because people started realising they were posting child porn. CHILD PORN.

2. Reddit only changed their rules after long, drawn out and (unfortunately for them, very publicaly available) conversations with some of the main perpetrators of the child porn due to the backlash of very negative press.

3. Some news companies posted it.
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Anyway the forum wars certainly don't help, that SA article posted seems quite biased by posting comments which are completely against the hivemind. It's all sorted now so that's the good news, hopefully it doesn't come back.
 
[FnG]magnolia;21262257 said:
tl;dr - reddit is a terrible thing unless you think child porn should be actively endorsed.
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The is a difference between actively endorsing something and failing to suppress it, by that logic Google image search, 4chan, Youtube, etc all actively endorse kiddie porn.

As long as a user content based website take down illegal/offensive material once its identified I don't personally see a problem.
 
This has been true of all the community sharing underground sites for years. While most maintain an active moderation team that remove the offending material as it is posted, there is often a significant window between the content being posted and the removal, ergo the material has already been effectively shared. The problem is, you cannot screen every post before going live, there are too many, but by purging bad material after its posted, you are still creating a window of facilitation to the distribution of said material.

And the sad thing is, it desensitizes the active community to the material and reduces the shocking impact of it. The whole pedobear or partyvan memes, which are a big joke, makes light of something that is utterly shocking, disgraceful and unacceptable. Combine this 'big joke' attitude with a community of young and influential members, and you have a breeding ground for the sexualization of children.

This is not a good thing, and anybody saying its a non-issue needs to get their head examined.

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The jailbait pictures are barely child porn. Generally they are pictures that you would find on facebook of girls taking pictures of themselves etc. I would not classify it as child porn because child porn is brutal and this stuff is just pictures of young girls. I don't realy think reddit should have a subreddit of it though but the over hype from some people and trying to make out as if it reddit is housing child porn does not help the fight against real abuse and child porn imo.
 
ubersonic said:
The is a difference between actively endorsing something and failing to suppress it, by that logic Google image search, 4chan, Youtube, etc all actively endorse kiddie porn.

As long as a user content based website take down illegal/offensive material once its identified I don't personally see a problem.
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exactly. why don't you also put any im or file sharing service provider into the argument, op?
 
Well a couple of points really.

In a world that cannot afford to police itself well enough that CP goes on in society , why do you expect private organisations to be able to police the interwebz well enough that it doesn't go on there.

Also hopefully the relevant authorities have a nice gold mine of intel regarding people who undertake such activity
 
mrk said:
Only because 4chan made it into pedobear.

The bear itself has no direct relation to such things.

http://ohinternet.com/Pedobear

It's like saying the Internet is home to pedophiles and woman beaters because there are people who use it to share such stuff.
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Yes the bear itself has no relation, but SKYNHEDD refers to it directly as 'pedobear' not 'funny cartoon bear.' That's where the relation comes in here. It may be light hearted humour with a dark side to it that the majority of people don't know about, but at the end of the day it's people making light of a disgusting and horrific issue.

As for the whole Reddit issue, I'm a regular on Reddit and am glad to see them (finally) doing something about the cp/jailbait etc on there, however mild or not it may have been. Thankfully if you just read the frontpage and your subscribed subreddits you would never have come across it, but the fact it was there at all was a problem.
 
Did any of those subreddits actually contain child porn, though? Not what you or I might or might not approve of, but images that mean jail time for the holder? Serious question.

There was a massive kerfuffle about the subreddit "preteen_girls" recently, and what I saw was creepy. But it was NOT porn.

That's not to say I wasn't disturbed by it, I was. Completely. But it seems that for Americans, they take the whole freedom of expression thing really, really seriously. As in "it ain't illegal, so you can eff right off, mister." Some people seemed to be using it for this very purpose, as a battleground, and that's as disturbing as getting off on the subject matter in the first place.

There is a LOT of stuff on the internet that I'd rather not see or be involved with, but we have to be careful about when to reach for the pitchforks.

If the stuff they've removed was NOT porn, then you're peddling the same accusations about Reddit that other media outlets are. Not examining the heart of the question deeply.

In case anyone is wondering - I'm really glad they've taken the move they have.
 
This is mental...from what I have been reading, its a bunch of people taking Facebook pics of teenagers and posting them up on reddit..

How can there be anything wrong with that? I was of the understanding that once you posted up pics on Facebook, you a) gave up ownership of those pictures to Facebook, and b) you accepted that you have posted them in a public domain.

If its just a bunch of pervs checking out teenagers with clothes on... what law exactly are they breaking here?

Or is that the problem? People want more oppressive laws for this stuff?
 
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