Thoughts on employers potentially having to offer 4-day week?

I'd do 98 hours a week for that kind of pay if it was compartmentalised and short term with an end in sight. Doing that as a normal thing you really have to live for that job otherwise the long term and wider (i.e. potential for fatigue making people less safe to be driving, etc.) consequences are going to be massive.
 
Even for triple my salary I wouldn't want to work 98hrs per week consistently. Sometimes sure, projects need to be finished and so on, but if it becomes the norm then something isnt' right.

Perhaps that huge salary should be 2 people's job, or 3... I can understand the desire to cut the workforce numbers down to minimise all the costs per employed person etc.

Nobody in this day and age should be doing slave like hours, regardless of the pay. Something is broken if this is the case, IMO
 
I'd do 98 hours a week for that kind of pay if it was compartmentalised and short term with an end in sight. Doing that as a normal thing you really have to live for that job otherwise the long term and wider (i.e. potential for fatigue making people less safe to be driving, etc.) consequences are going to be massive.

Yeah for a short term bit of "all hands on deck" sort of work I'd grit my teeth and get on with it. As I said though for me I fear it would become the norm/expected, and that to me is not healthy, not physically or mentally.

Perhaps that huge salary should be 2 people's job, or 3... I can understand the desire to cut the workforce numbers down to minimise all the costs per employed person etc.

Nobody in this day and age should be doing slave like hours, regardless of the pay. Something is broken if this is the case, IMO

100% agree - but it seems the norm in some industries, you just have to look at that document that @dowie shared - it's pretty damning.
 
The big issue I have with 4 day weeks is for it to work well you need it to be well co-ordinated in terms of who is off when. If you work a 4 day week and everyone you interact with is off the same day (like at say Xmas/Easter) that's great. Very little in the way of comms from colleagues, customers etc (in an office job). The issue is say I have Monday off but others who generate work for me do not. I come back on Tuesday with a backlog of work to greet me, emails to read etc. On the flipside you might need something from someone else on the Tuesday, but they are off. This obviously happens today due to absences but it would be much more prevalent with 4 day weeks I think.

What's worse is when there is an imbalance e.g. I used to work with someone who did a 3.5 day week (reduced hours) whilst others did 5. The problem was, there was sort of an inherent expectation from some that she'd deliver as much as people doing a 5 day week.
 
My boss managed to wrangle himself 3 day week on basically the same pay (minus some enhancements) - though to be fair they originally negotiated redundancy with a decent package which would have let him start up his own business then plans changed and his role continued.
 
The big issue I have with 4 day weeks is for it to work well you need it to be well co-ordinated in terms of who is off when. If you work a 4 day week and everyone you interact with is off the same day (like at say Xmas/Easter) that's great. Very little in the way of comms from colleagues, customers etc (in an office job). The issue is say I have Monday off but others who generate work for me do not. I come back on Tuesday with a backlog of work to greet me, emails to read etc. On the flipside you might need something from someone else on the Tuesday, but they are off. This obviously happens today due to absences but it would be much more prevalent with 4 day weeks I think.

What's worse is when there is an imbalance e.g. I used to work with someone who did a 3.5 day week (reduced hours) whilst others did 5. The problem was, there was sort of an inherent expectation from some that she'd deliver as much as people doing a 5 day week.


yeah, it would only work if it was fixed. E.g. Everyone gets Wednesday off so essentially work 2 x2day weeks. Is suspect you would have to be stricter and make sure people's Doctors appointment etc were all on the off day and not give so much flexibility on the work days so the work days were really focused.
 
I'm currently in the office 2 days per week, however those days sees a 2 hours commute each way, so 8 hours wasted, essentially an unpaid day (paid really, seeing as I pay for the train tickets).

So moving to 4 working days with extended hours to keep 37.5 would be fine by me, IF I get to WFH constantly.
 
I'm currently in the office 2 days per week, however those days sees a 2 hours commute each way, so 8 hours wasted, essentially an unpaid day (paid really, seeing as I pay for the train tickets).

So moving to 4 working days with extended hours to keep 37.5 would be fine by me, IF I get to WFH constantly.

That's why I'm leaving my current role. 2.5hrs each way. £45 ticket. Started off with "come into the office as needed" to 2 days a week. Now going up to 3 days a week.

Don't get me wrong I like going into the office (genuinely), but not at the detriment of my home life.
 
Some people in this thread seem be completely inflexible unable to adjust to other peoples schedules. Unable to parallel work.

I just do something else until that other person comes back then that bit of work progresses. If it's time critical they should have cover.

It's not rocket science.
 
Some people in this thread seem be completely inflexible unable to adjust to other peoples schedules. Unable to parallel work.

I just do something else until that other person comes back then that bit of work progresses. If it's time critical they should have cover.

It's not rocket science.

Communication and collaboration are critical aspects of team work to maximize productivity. It has nothing to do with flexibility but productivity
 
Inability to manage a basic tasks like scheduling a four day week or hybrid working or Flexi time is not good indicator of being able to maximise anything.
 
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