Three times over the legal limit for cocaine?!

[Freakbro]

I would've thought that limit is set to quite a low level. So being three times over the limit is still relatively low is it not?

I know someone has posted the actual level, but I've got no idea what that translates to. Would a 'normal' line of coke put you way over to the limit?

From just googling for some data, it seems a normal "high" from a hit of cocaine would translate to about 250-300 ug/l, the legal limit being 10. So at 30 in this case it would point to a residual amount from previous use rather than being high at the time.

(My Google search history is going to look very weird over the years thanks to this forum )

 

[bigmike20vt]

So ecstasy is dangerous when it isn't ecstasy? Lol

I'm afraid you don't really know much about the topic

really? ok then so tell me what quality control and standards are done so you know exactly what you are getting, also the dosing of the tablet / stamp.

I may not know a huge amount about taking drugs but I do have a degree in biochemistry which had some organic chemistry modules as well as my cousin and 2 of my wife's cousins are nurses who work in large hospitals and have plenty of hands on experience of the effects of different drugs .

alcohol is not a great drug either and can do a lot of damage... but at least when you buy (insert your beverage of choice) what you get is tightly controlled.... unless you are getting some dodgy moonshine.

the main problem. with acid is that it makes you highly suggestible. back in the day I would go out with people on acid (I would be on beer) and the stuff they believed and were convinced about was quite an eye opener (with hindsite I didn't help..... a drunken fool telling people on acid we were being followed was not clever on my part)

 

[Freakbro]

probably mostly same with Acid tho i could definitely imagine someone high on acid deciding they were the worlds best driver and giving it a go!

Tell me you've never taken acid without telling me....

Of those list of drugs you mentioned, acid is by far the least physically damaging to the body, whereas cocaine, speed etc are quite physically harmful though.

 

[VincentHanna]

Tell me you've never taken acid without telling me....

Of those list of drugs you mentioned, acid is by far the least physically damaging to the body, whereas cocaine, speed etc are quite physically harmful though.

Can't be, Roar said it's just a strong stimulant.

Weren't they looking at using micro-doses of acid or mushrooms to treat anxiety/depression?

 

[Freakbro]

Weren't they looking at using micro-doses of acid or mushrooms to treat anxiety/depression?

Yea, it's been quite an upcoming therapy.

 

[bigmike20vt]

Tell me you've never taken acid without telling me....

Of those list of drugs you mentioned, acid is by far the least physically damaging to the body, whereas cocaine, speed etc are quite physically harmful though.

truth is.... i really regret NOT taking it back in the day just once. some of my friends had some interesting experiences on it....... but once i finally came around to the idea of giving it a go, life had moved on and the people who had took it didnt bother any more.....
i have had mushrooms once (15+ years ago).. but it was after a lot of beer and i threw them up soon after taking.

lets be honest................... if alcohol was discovered for the 1st time tomorrow there is absolutely no way it would be legal......

 

[Chrisc]

So basically, cocaine use in so rife that lots of people were likely showing trace amounts in their bloodstream when being tested - So they had to set a limit to ensure convictions actually happened?

Horrible drug IMO. Turns people in to absolute ***** and usually much more aggressive.

I was out having a curry a few weeks ago, and people were doing it in the toilets. Absolute Madness. How crap is your life when you need a pick me up while having a Ruby?

 

[Junglist]

really? ok then so tell me what quality control and standards are done so you know exactly what you are getting, also the dosing of the tablet / stamp.

I used to dabble in the onion fields and it was quite frequent to send things off to a lab called 'Energy Control' who would test it. The community would often pitch in for big tests.

Granted if you're just getting it off of anyone, it could have been mixed with god knows what.

 

[Dis86]

I was out having a curry a few weeks ago, and people were doing it in the toilets. Absolute Madness. How **** is your life when you need a pick me up while having a Ruby?

I've said the same many times. Goes with those who look for any excuse to get smashed in general. My sister and her husband are prime examples. Kids birthdays. Christenings. Tuesdays.

 

[Roar87]

Can't be, Roar said it's just a strong stimulant.

Weren't they looking at using micro-doses of acid or mushrooms to treat anxiety/depression?

Cocaine | National Institute on Drug Abuse

Learn more about the health effects of cocaine, a stimulant drug made from the leaves of the coca plant.

nida.nih.gov

It is literally a stimulant, are you ok? I have tried it on a couple of occasions and honestly I've had a coffee from Starbucks which had similar effects. Actually the coffee I had one time was so strong it gave some insane euphoric effect.

 

[Chrisc]

I've said the same many times. Goes with those who look for any excuse to get smashed in general. My sister and her husband are prime examples. Kids birthdays. Christenings. Tuesdays.

I wouldnt mind, its cut down so much and mixed with other products. The real amount of cocaine is probably minimal.

 

[spolsh]

Cocaine | National Institute on Drug Abuse

Learn more about the health effects of cocaine, a stimulant drug made from the leaves of the coca plant.

nida.nih.gov

It is literally a stimulant, are you ok? I have tried it on a couple of occasions and honestly I've had a coffee from Starbucks which had similar effects. Actually the coffee I had one time was so strong it gave some insane euphoric effect.

Yeah, but they were talking about acid while you were still on coke, I mean still talking about coke.

 

[Diddums]

Three times? Lol amateurs.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Awful story:

Mother and daughter burned to death after cocaine-using driver watching TikTok crashed into them on school run

Luke Flanagan was three times the legal limit for cocaine when he smashed into Emma van der Avoird's Peugeot as she was taking her daughter Khiana to school.

news.sky.com

Luke Flanagan was three times the legal limit for cocaine when he smashed into Emma van der Avoird's Peugeot as she was taking her daughter Khiana to school.

But help me out GD

Cocaine is a class A drug. How can there be a "legal limit" that you can be over? Very confused.

I watch virtually every Cop program on TV eg Traffic Cops and Motorway Cops only last night.
They test at the scene with a lick test and if it shows a line after 8 minutes for cannabis or Cocaine they are over.
They take them back to the Shop for blood tests but I've NEVER heard them say they were so many times over.

Both Cocaine and Cannabis stay in the body way longer than alcohol so drivers will admit 'I last had Cannabis 5 days ago' but they will still be over.

Interesting
The legal limit for Cocaine is 10 micrograms per litre of blood (10ug). This is a zero tolerance limit. If convicted, you would receive a 12 month driving ban.

So he must have had 30 micrograms in his system

 

[Freakbro]

Cocaine | National Institute on Drug Abuse

Learn more about the health effects of cocaine, a stimulant drug made from the leaves of the coca plant.

nida.nih.gov

It is literally a stimulant, are you ok? I have tried it on a couple of occasions and honestly I've had a coffee from Starbucks which had similar effects. Actually the coffee I had one time was so strong it gave some insane euphoric effect.

Tbh that would be reflective of the low quality of cocaine you took, which is the problem when it reaches street level "pub grub" , you've no idea how much actual cocaine would be in it (and prob not very much, it would be cut with other cheaper mild stimulants and bulking agents). You would know about a proper line of cocaine as it would knock your socks off

But with respect to driving, just because its a stimulant that doesn't automatically translate to being OK with driving, as it does impair your judgement and more importantly cause reckless overconfidence, which is one of the main dangers behind the wheel.

Though I agree with you in this case, at the such low levels in his bloodstream I'd say being on his phone was the main contributing factor.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Though I agree with you in this case, at the such low levels in his bloodstream I'd say being on his phone was the main contributing factor.

The legal limit for Cocaine is 10 micrograms per litre of blood (10ug). This is a zero tolerance limit. If convicted, you would receive a 12 month driving ban.

So he must have had 30 micrograms in his system

 

[Freakbro]

The legal limit for Cocaine is 10 micrograms per litre of blood (10ug). This is a zero tolerance limit. If convicted, you would receive a 12 month driving ban.

So he must have had 30 micrograms in his system

Yea, and I posted earlier (after googling research) that a normal "high" from a dose would result in a level about 250-300 ug/l

So he probably had had it the night before (or earlier) as it was mostly metabolised out of his system

 

[builder22]

so 30 millionths of a gram?

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Yea, and I posted earlier (after googling research) that a normal "high" from a dose would result in a level about 250-300 ug/l

So he probably had had it the night before (or earlier) as it was mostly metabolised out of his system

Well like they admit on these Traffic Cop series 'The last time was 5 days ago'.
There must be research though that proves how such a 'low amount' is still dangerous.

 

[Malevolence]

Even if you don't do it yourself, merely sitting in a room where somebody is smoking weed can see you losing your licence and getting a hefty fine.