Titanic submersible confirmed destroyed with loss of all five souls onboard.

StriderX said:
Makes sense loads of subsea companies around.
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Yeah a few of them out at Westhill. I was offered a graduate engineer job at Divex when I started out 20 years ago. Was a really interesting place, had a perspex test chamber that backed out into reception, so when you went in you could seem them testing diver kit. Manufacture a lot of the SBS kit there.
 
With the amount of other design "issues" this submersible had I wonder if this one (or any) was ever fitted with an aircraft style "black box" (or CSMU for techies) for any post-incident/event analysis, should it be recovered?
 
I'm not sure whether this has been mentioned yet. But I heard on the radio today that the ship reported receiving a message that the submersible was doppping its weights and was surfacing. Then all messages stopped. So they suspected what had happened but still needed to check all other options.
 
Hades said:
I'm not sure whether this has been mentioned yet. But I heard on the radio today that the ship reported receiving a message that the submersible was doppping its weights and was surfacing. Then all messages stopped. So they suspected what had happened but still needed to check all other options.
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What I read and I believe this originally came from James Cameron was that there was telemetry that the weights were being dropped which would indicate a swift return then all communication was lost, they did not have direct voice or other communication it was all data
 
That is exactly what James Cameron said too as him and his inner circle of deep sea diving colleagues got word early on from the ship too as they're all connected.
 
Hades said:
I'm not sure whether this has been mentioned yet. But I heard on the radio today that the ship reported receiving a message that the submersible was doppping its weights and was surfacing. Then all messages stopped. So they suspected what had happened but still needed to check all other options.
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He brings it up in this interview


Also says they knew on Monday about the info from the Navy about the suspected explosion from the hydrophones
 
I still cannot understand how Grant Mitchell, a load of peasants from OCUK and the vast majority of the world can see how poor this was yet a load of billionaires one of which who took his bloody son and a supposed French Navy vet diving specialist thought this was an okay move.

If that Stockton Rush wasn't onboard he would be look at prison time for Manslaughter surely.
 
adam cool dude said:
I still cannot understand how Grant Mitchell, a load of peasants from OCUK and the vast majority of the world can see how poor this was yet a load of billionaires one of which who took his bloody son and a supposed French Navy vet diving specialist thought this was an okay move.

If that Stockton Rush wasn't onboard he would be look at prison time for Manslaughter surely.
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Let me stop you right there. Go back a month ago before this event, scrub everyone’s mind and show them a picture of the sub. most of the peasants on OCUK and the vast majority world would not be able to identify the issues because they do not have the knowledge or understanding to actually identify the flaws in the submarines design.

So let’s not go around knocking those billionaires who got on the sub for not spotting design flaws that only became obvious when people with actual knowledge on this subject started pointing it out to the masses.
 
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Chuk_Chuk said:
Let me stop you right there. Go back a month ago before this event, scrub everyone’s mind and show them a picture of the sub. most of the peasants on OCUK and the vast majority world would not be able to identify the issues because they do not have the knowledge or understanding to actually identify the flaws in the submarines design.

So let’s not go around knocking those billionaires who got on the sub for not spotting design flaws that only became obvious when people with actual knowledge on this subject started pointing it out to the masses.
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The World is an expert when it comes to hindsight.
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
Let me stop you right there. Go back a month ago before this event, scrub everyone’s mind and show them a picture of the sub. most of the peasants on OCUK and the vast majority world would not be able to identify the issues because they do not have the knowledge or understanding to actually identify the flaws in the submarines design.

So let’s not go around knocking those billionaires who got on the sub for not spotting design flaws that only became obvious when people with actual knowledge on this subject started pointing it out to the masses.
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The point I think is that most of us here and all over would do our due diligence, if we were in the position of those passengers before signing up. Red flags all over which previous passengers who bailed on this very dive because of safety concerns when they saw the sub in person etc.

So yes, whilst it's all great not knowing what's what with merely internet images etc, plenty of people, especially in tech communities would have alarm bells ringing in their head and would want to know if their lives are at risk by going in that thing instead of getting caught up in the hype built by Stockton Rush.
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
Let me stop you right there. Go back a month ago before this event, scrub everyone’s mind and show them a picture of the sub. most of the peasants on OCUK and the vast majority world would not be able to identify the issues because they do not have the knowledge or understanding to actually identify the flaws in the submarines design.

So let’s not go around knocking those billionaires who got on the sub for not spotting design flaws that only became obvious when people with actual knowledge on this subject started pointing it out to the masses.
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You’re right in that no one is an expert in everything but this also means if you aren’t a sausage you’ll get an expert to take a look at it for you. Like Grant Mitchell and his film crew that turned this voyage down after realising it was an accident waiting to happen..
 
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Chuk_Chuk said:
Let me stop you right there. Go back a month ago before this event, scrub everyone’s mind and show them a picture of the sub. most of the peasants on OCUK and the vast majority world would not be able to identify the issues because they do not have the knowledge or understanding to actually identify the flaws in the submarines design.

So let’s not go around knocking those billionaires who got on the sub for not spotting design flaws that only became obvious when people with actual knowledge on this subject started pointing it out to the masses.
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You would think these billionaires would do some due dilligence though, even Ross Kemps team did that.

www.theguardian.com

Ross Kemp turned down trip on Titanic submersible over safety fears

UK documentary maker was last year advised against filming on Titan, which fatally imploded this week
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
mrk said:
The point I think is that most of us here and all over would do our due diligence, if we were in the position of those passengers before signing up. Red flags all over which previous passengers who bailed on this very dive because of safety concerns when they saw the sub in person etc.

So yes, whilst it's all great not knowing what's what with merely internet images etc, plenty of people, especially in tech communities would have alarm bells ringing in their head and would want to know if their lives are at risk by going in that thing instead of getting caught up in the hype built by Stockton Rush.
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Actually no people wouldn’t do their due diligence because they would have no idea what to check or even how to start. Most people struggle to buy a mechanically sound second hand car. How on earth would they stand a chance spotting issues with a sub?

And that’s Ignoring the people who would simply be to scared to do this in the first place since they would just be paranoid about anything that didn’t look like a nuclear bunker.

Maybe if you happen to have picked some knowledge about structural engineering through education or documentaries you might notice something fishy.

You would also have no way about knowing that people have bailed on the trip unless you knew them personally.
 
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Chuk_Chuk said:
Let me stop you right there. Go back a month ago before this event, scrub everyone’s mind and show them a picture of the sub. most of the peasants on OCUK and the vast majority world would not be able to identify the issues because they do not have the knowledge or understanding to actually identify the flaws in the submarines design.
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you've watched the BBC promotional video ? - if you'd been contemplating buying a ticket to ride, I think you'd have had 2nd thoughts
(it's like due diligence on which covid vaccine I'll take, safety checks you perform on risky sports, or the b word vote)

Minusorange said:
Not a chance
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already posted, there were electronics outside the hull, protected somehow, so not inconceivable SSD's survive with data,
( new cars are now collecting the last 250ms of user input )
 
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