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[TW]Fox said:
Becuase it's true - he pays £4k to insure a Civic Type R becuase there is a huge risk involved in doing it - but if he's going to do it I'd rather he did and insured himself properly.

My views on 17-19 year olds in powerful cars are well known, but once you've got 2-4 years experience although you are still a 'new driver' I think it's time to start considering decent cars.

Someone with 2-4 years experience should (hopefully) have some decent NCB and thus their insurance should be a reasonable price anyway.
 
It is a shame that four people died at such an early age, and in such an unfortunate way at just 70mph. Must have been an overtake gone wrong or something :(
 
Truely tragic :(

What the article doesn't say is that three of the girls were killed when they were thrown from the car due to not wearing seatbelts. Utter madness, especially as they were in a car that was being ragged. To think they might still be alive had they all spent 5 seconds fastening their belt :(
 
Sounds like they ticked all the boxes in the stupidity book: drinking+driving, racing, not wearing belts etc

Such a tragedy, such stupidity. That one night has ended so many lives and wrecked the lives of the survivors. :(
 
In my OPINION, young drivers should not be allowed to insure a powerfull car until they have been driving long enough to have a full no-claims bonus, therefore will have several years driving experience, which hopefully proves they are a decent driver, having had no claimed accidents.. not full proof as not all accidents require a claim, but it would be a good start. A person with only 2-3 years driving experience is not enough to qualify them to drive something with 200bhp or more.

To those that say they think they are a good driver, only a fool thinks his driving is good enough to drive anything with high power, unless you have had expert training, which a normal driving test does not cover!

Edit: there was a show on lastnight that showed in USA, they have come up with a great idea which may soon be trialed in the UK, anyone with a previous Drink driving offence has their car fitted with a alcohol test unit, before they can start the engine, they must blow into the test unit, if they are ok, the engine will start, and at random time during the journey, they may be require to retest, and if they fail, the unit will tell the driver to pull over within a three minute limit before it turns the motor off.... great idea.
 
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Perhaps the insurance groups should be split up better and each banded so to drive group 1 - 3 you just need to do the normal test then group 4 - 8 you need to do some advanced training and pass, as the groups get higher the teaching gets more advanced and the tests harder, until you have passed you can't buy nor insure the car.
 
Trojan said:
Truely tragic :(

What the article doesn't say is that three of the girls were killed when they were thrown from the car due to not wearing seatbelts. Utter madness, especially as they were in a car that was being ragged. To think they might still be alive had they all spent 5 seconds fastening their belt :(

But its not "cool" to wear seat belts :rolleyes:
 
UKDTweak said:
In my OPINION, young drivers should not be allowed to insure a powerfull car until they have been driving long enough to have a full no-claims bonus, therefore will have several years driving experience, which hopefully proves they are a decent driver, having had no claimed accidents.. not full proof as not all accidents require a claim, but it would be a good start.

Unfortunatly, I was on motability for 3 years after passing my test, and although i never crashed, you dont get an NCB on motability.

UKDTweak said:
A person with only 2-3 years driving experience is not enough to qualify them to drive something with 200bhp or more.

Why? Again it all comes down to the maturity of the individual person imo.
 
The difference in skill between a 17 year old having just passed their test and a 35 year old just having passed their test is nil.

A J-reg 998cc Fiesta Bonus is just as capable of reaching lethal speeds as a Civic Type-R. In my book the Civic is by far a safer car due to its brakes and airbags alone.

This has nothing to do with young drivers and everything to do with the individuals and their lack of common sense and responsibility. You should not tar everyone with the same brush.
 
that makes me really sad. those girls were really pretty, what a waste.

8 years is not enough for 4 manslaughters. I hope they get repeatedly beaten and bum raped in the slammer.
 
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