Today, DSC failed me!

I might be old school here, but I never drive like I got modern day driving aids. In conditions like mentioned above, I used to drive an old Sierra Cosworth with nothing and never had any moments out of control. Sure I had it a bit unstable under braking, or a tail out on a icy roundabout, but always alert enough to control the situation.

And modern cars I drive like they got no aids, so I am anticipating conditions. Ive had ABS skid under aquaplaning conditions, and I had to take action to some idiot decided not to stop at a end of a junction as he was texting. Once a car break grips, no matter what you got, you will end up loosing traction and skidding/spinning.
 
[TW]Fox;25610409 said:
I was just about to go out and make a journey to absolutely nowhere for no purpose whatsoever but now I've read this advice, I will wait until I need to go somewhere first.
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Every time you get in your car there is a chance that you could be involved in a fatal accident. This weather increases that chance not only through your own driving but someone else with less ability/experience could lose control and crash into you.
 
I've driven reasonably powerful rwd cars through Scottish winters for about the last 5 years and never came across these mythical dangerous cars ( not aimed at will btw).

I wonder how some people even leave the house - sometimes incidents happen, that's just life but your car won't be fishtailing along the road every time its below 5c outside and wet, even when you're as ham fisted as I am
 
Barks said:
Every time you get in your car there is a chance that you could be involved in a fatal accident. This weather increases that chance not only through your own driving but someone else with less ability/experience could lose control and crash into you.
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Whilst some of your logic is sound you are coming across in your posts as an enormous drama queen. Do you write articles for tabloid newspapers?
 
Barks said:
Exactly what planet are you on mate?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25626065

I've seen Dual Carriageways where the right hand lane is completely water logged in places. That is not a bit of wind and rain, that is potentially lethal.
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You're the biggest girl's blouse imaginable. The BBC charts show that we have had above average temperatures, meaning our summer tyres are performing pretty well, and that we've had at most about twice as much rain as usual. Twice, not two thousand times, twice. It's not like we have regular monsoons and 'twice' is washing away cities?

Are you the sort of guy that doesn't go to work because he cleared his throat 'twice' as many times as normal? :p
 
I remember spinning my 2.7 E30 on a roundabout which was soaking wet, I was in the wrong gear and not prepared for it to spin. I was lucky because it did no damage, other than to my immediate pride. The experience didn't make me not want to drive in the rain any more, it just made me more aware of the realities of driving a car, any car, in such conditions.
 
Barks said:
Every time you get in your car there is a chance that you could be involved in a fatal accident. This weather increases that chance not only through your own driving but someone else with less ability/experience could lose control and crash into you.
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Sound observation from Barks TBH.

I'm selling my car tomorrow and handing back my driving licence. It's just not worth the risk. Lord knows how I survived on the roads these last 25 years.
 
I am being a complete drama queen because I completely lost control on the motorway after aqua-planing recently and it scared the daylights out of me. The main point I'm trying to make is that although there is always a risk of losing control, that risk is increased in the current weather conditions.

I'm not saying the UK is akin to a scene from The Impossible but I am saying that in some areas roads are water logged and on a dual carriageway where people bomb along at 70mph it's not exactly what I would call safe.

You can call me a girl's blouse but from my experience flooring an M135i in 1st/2nd on wet roads isn't a great idea. I'm not saying a fair bit of throttle is going to spin the car into a tree but full throttle is tempting fate.
 
Barks said:
I am being a complete drama queen because I completely lost control on the motorway after aqua-planing recently and it scared the daylights out of me. The main point I'm trying to make is that although there is always a risk of losing control, that risk is increased in the current weather conditions.

I'm not saying the UK is akin to a scene from The Impossible but I am saying that in some areas roads are water logged and on a dual carriageway where people bomb along at 70mph it's not exactly what I would call safe.

You can call me a girl's blouse but from my experience flooring an M135i in 1st/2nd on wet roads isn't a great idea. I'm not saying a fair bit of throttle is going to spin the car into a tree but full throttle is tempting fate.
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Flooring 320 HP RWD on wet roads in 'not great idea' shocker? :D

If I go around flooring the 535d away from junctions in this weather I am not going to get very far, either! If the car is genuinely flailing about you have a problem. In no BMW - low or high power, normal or M - has the DSC not been capable of stopping any induced slip at low speed.

Aquaplaning is one of those things, unfortunately. It's easier when you 'know' the road as they always tend to build up surface water in the same place.
 
So because you can't nail it from a standstill or very low revs ( which none of us can) you'll be leaving the car at home? Come on.

I do get the point btw, but you're being ever so slightly melodramatic
 
Motors you've convinced me to man up and I'll retract my earlier statement about not taking her out. The fact is I've only driven a RWD performance car for about 7-8 months and I went into December thinking I was invincible and had a few scares so I'm just going to take it 'easy' until the roads dry up a bit. :)

Obviously I really hope none of you encounter any issues on the wet roads although I can't help but feel some in particular might be less unsympathetic following such an event
 
Least your still here to tell the story. :)

That could have being so much worse if a solid object had crossed your path.

At high speeds break-away tends to be very quick. My M3 at sub 30mph is quite progressive. But beyond 60mph it can be very quick and sudden, I went grass cutting a few times at Donnington trying to drift at 60mph+, its bloody hard to catch it in the wet on tyres not designed for the wet.

Fact is if its chucking it down hard and the road is covered in water with possibility of deep puddles I tend to stay below 60mph as most tyres will easily aquaplane above 55mph, especially if around 4-5mm. Lightweight firm cars don't like puddles. ;)

Bright side the only thing hurt here is your pride, your health and wallet is pretty much un-harmed. :)
 
Sounds like a lot of people rely on DSC or have DSC intervention regularly. Well id hate to be in the lane next to you when the road conditions exceed DSC's capability because i know first hand how much of a handful my E36 M3 can be without any of those AIDS
 
Glad to see you and the car are relatively fine. Only big moment I have ever had on a motorway was in my E36, a lot of fish tailing and very sideways in the wet but managed to straighten it up.

Currently rocking Primacy HPs all over, perfect winter tyre for Autobahn use :D
 
I hate to say it, but I told the internet so. DSC is not a catch all and it sometimes will go on holiday. It did on my M3's and you still need to catch the car sometimes when DSC goes on holiday.....or go for a spin. Lucky escape, get back on the horse and thrash it to **** is my advice.
 
Housey said:
I hate to say it, but I told the internet so. DSC is not a catch all and it sometimes will go on holiday. It did on my M3's and you still need to catch the car sometimes when DSC goes on holiday.....or go for a spin. Lucky escape, get back on the horse and thrash it to **** is my advice.
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That's exactly how I feel
 
Bad luck, aquaplaning can be alarming. Hit a nice big puddle on the 54 this evening which tried to suck me into the armco. Back to lane 1, tail between legs style :p
 
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