Top 4 this year?

[Psycho Sonny]

Who do you play out of the 5 strikers you mention?

A combined value of about £130m and City play one up front.

SWP is for sale, so is Weiss. Johnson is a reserve. Milner and Barry? Not popular with Roberto.

Its not about having the best or most expensive players. Imagine being Dzeko and being a £30m signing a few months ago and already you will be lucky to make the bench. Looking at what happened to Bellamy and RSC will hardly fill you with confidence.........

Personally I would play a 4222, with Tevez and Dzeko up front (then sub on Adebayor 60th min for Dzeko and Balotelli in the 75th min for Tevez).

2 CAM's would be Aguero and Silva (with Johnson to come on in 60th minute for whoever was playing worse)

2 CDM's would be De Jong (told to stay back) and Toure (told to roam forward when he thinks he should).

 

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Personally I would play a 4222, with Tevez and Dzeko up front (then sub on Adebayor 60th min for Dzeko and Balotelli in the 75th min for Tevez).

2 CAM's would be Aguero and Silva (with Johnson to come on in 60th minute for whoever was playing worse)

2 CDM's would be De Jong (told to stay back) and Toure (told to roam forward when he thinks he should).

Well thats a unique insight into the future you have. Id LOVE to see City playing and make substitutions at specific times regardless of score and performance just to keep players happy! Actually its not that daft, i could see them doing that!!

 

[Biz.Kid09]

Personally I would play a 4222, with Tevez and Dzeko up front (then sub on Adebayor 60th min for Dzeko and Balotelli in the 75th min for Tevez).

2 CAM's would be Aguero and Silva (with Johnson to come on in 60th minute for whoever was playing worse)

2 CDM's would be De Jong (told to stay back) and Toure (told to roam forward when he thinks he should).

Sub on at 60min?
This is not Fifa lol.

Anyways Adebayor will never play for the team again. He has burnt his bridges with Mancini.

Also Yaya as a CDM?, Yeh stick one of our main attacking outlets last season as a CDM.

 

[Tom84]

He wont.

Jumping on the defensive?....like no one else on here does that.

Dzeko has looked quicker, sharper. Balotelli has also when he has been playing. They have also linked up with the rest of the team a lot better.

Utter garbage? lol

Got the lottery numbers while you're at it then if you can predict the future? I'm not saying Aguero will struggle just that you cant rule it out... well you obviously can rule it out but most would be unwise to.

As for my utter garbage comment how would you describe the performance against the LA Galaxy?

 

[BaZ87]

The team hasnt improved at all, its just added the standard "How much are they offering????!!!!" player or two.

The point is no one knows if Tevez will still be there next season and even if he is where his mind will be.

I assume you're referring to Aguero when you mention that he's only joined for the money and therefore won't improve the side?

If so, I assume that Rooney's pretty useless to Utd seeing as he held Utd to ransom and only signed a new deal once Utd offered him more money?

I find it laughable how some people continue to write off City. While there's certainly a case that certain players have only joined for the money, to say they won't improve the side is ridiculous. What's even more laughable is the same people label Tevez the biggest mercenary of them all and then in the next breath say that City & Tevez are a 1 man team. You can't have it both ways.

I remember a certain poster on here saying it was impossible for the 'group of individuals' at City to finish above a team like Chelsea and Arsenal for years to come. That was a month or so before City finished above Arsenal and on level points with Chelsea

As for your point on Tevez specifically. Tevez has wanted to leave for the majority of last season and was still one of City's best players, so if he is still a City player come the 1st September, I see no reason to think that his commitment on the pitch will change.

 

[Tummy]

I'm really looking forward to seeing Augero play

 

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Lol @ accusing him of ~jumping on the defensive~. The ridiculous thing is how blinded by bias so many people on here seem to be - the extent to which people fail to be objective seems crazy to me.

Im not. I believe Man City should be able to spend the cash their owners give them. I dislike the "financial fair play" thing as a concept. However i still think City have made a complete mess when it comes to spending money and i dont think its wrong to point it out just cos i support United.

 

[Psycho Sonny]

Sub on at 60min?
This is not Fifa lol.

Anyways Adebayor will never play for the team again. He has burnt his bridges with Mancini.

Also Yaya as a CDM?, Yeh stick one of our main attacking outlets last season as a CDM.

did you read the brackets?

 

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I assume you're referring to Aguero when you mention that he's only joined for the money and therefore won't improve the side?

If so, I assume that Rooney's pretty useless to Utd seeing as he held Utd to ransom and only signed a new deal once Utd offered him more money?

I find it laughable how some people continue to write off City. While there's certainly a case that certain players have only joined for the money, to say they won't improve the side is ridiculous. What's even more laughable is the same people label Tevez the biggest mercenary of them all and then in the next breath say that City & Tevez are a 1 man team. You can't have it both ways.

I remember a certain poster on here saying it was impossible for the 'group of individuals' at City to finish above a team like Chelsea and Arsenal for years to come. That was a month or so before City finished above Arsenal and on level points with Chelsea

As for your point on Tevez specifically. Tevez has wanted to leave for the majority of last season and was still one of City's best players, so if he is still a City player come the 1st September, I see no reason to think that his commitment on the pitch will change.

Not sure where to begin.

I'll do my best. I've had a few beers!!!

SA signed for City. Does anyone really think it wasnt for the money??? Behave.

Im not saying he wont try or anything else but he joins an ever growing group of strikers at City who get a few games and are then dismissed. Its a joke of a way to buy players, its embarrassing and it shames the players who sign up for it.

As a United fan i had the "Tevez going to City" thing rammed down my throat. If i rightly pointed out his utter ****ishness i was branded "bitter". However it transpires he is a ****. Shokerooni.

 

[Biz.Kid09]

did you read the brackets?

Yes

Personally I would play a 4222, with Tevez and Dzeko up front (then sub on Adebayor 60th min for Dzeko and Balotelli in the 75th min for Tevez).

2 CAM's would be Aguero and Silva (with Johnson to come on in 60th minute for whoever was playing worse)

2 CDM's would be De Jong (told to stay back) and Toure (told to roam forward when he thinks he should).

? or are you talking about Yaya? If so if he is going to be told to roam forward then its pointless having him as CDM because he is best going forward.

Not sure where to begin.

I'll do my best. I've had a few beers!!!

SA signed for City. Does anyone really think it wasnt for the money??? Behave.

Im not saying he wont try or anything else but he joins an ever growing group of strikers at City who get a few games and are then dismissed. Its a joke of a way to buy players, its embarrassing and it shames the players who sign up for it.

As a United fan i had the "Tevez going to City" thing rammed down my throat. If i rightly pointed out his utter ****ishness i was branded "bitter". However it transpires he is a ****. Shokerooni.

Well he was actually offered more to go to Juventus and i doubt Madrid were going to give him minimum wage.

A few games and then dismissed? if that was the case then Balotelli would have never played again after some performances last year. Dzeko also got 21? games last year at the same time when Tevez and Balotelli where the main strikers.

 

[BaZ87]

Not sure where to begin.

I'll do my best. I've had a few beers!!!

SA signed for City. Does anyone really think it wasnt for the money??? Behave.

Im not saying he wont try or anything else but he joins an ever growing group of strikers at City who get a few games and are then dismissed. Its a joke of a way to buy players, its embarrassing and it shames the players who sign up for it.

As a United fan i had the "Tevez going to City" thing rammed down my throat. If i rightly pointed out his utter ****ishness i was branded "bitter". However it transpires he is a ****. Shokerooni.

I think the beers have meant you've missed the point.

I'm not saying Aguero joined City purely for footballing reasons nor am I defending Tevez's decision to join City and subsequent off-field antics.

What I'm saying is that despite these things, the likes of Aguero are still very likely to improve City. Tevez is the perfect example to back that up. He joined his previous clubs bitter rivals purely for the money, yet he's also been their best player and played a huge part in improving City as a side.

Aguero's move to City is far less controversial than Tevez's, seeing as City are now in the CL and he's joining from a smaller club. However even if the money was the biggest factor, he's a hugely talented player and imo, will only improve City. You can't compare him to the likes of Bellamy etc, he's a far far better player.

As I said in my last post; if you're going to write off Aguero for joining City for the money then I assume you wrote off Rooney when he changed his mind about leave Utd after he got a big pay rise?

 

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Well he was actually offered more to go to Juventus and i doubt Madrid were going to give him minimum wage.

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He was not offered more to go to these clubs.

You are saying Juve and Real Madrid offered more money to SA and he chose Man City?

Thats what you are saying here?

Kun Aguero was offered more to go to Real Madrid and Juventus yet he chose Man City?

 

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I think the beers have meant you've missed the point.

I'm not saying Aguero joined City purely for footballing reasons nor am I defending Tevez's decision to join City and subsequent off-field antics.

What I'm saying is that despite these things, the likes of Aguero are still very likely to improve City. Tevez is the perfect example to back that up. He joined his previous clubs bitter rivals purely for the money, yet he's also been their best player and played a huge part in improving City as a side.

Aguero's move to City is far less controversial than Tevez's, seeing as City are now in the CL and he's joining from a smaller club. However even if the money was the biggest factor, he's a hugely talented player and imo, will only improve City.

As I said in my last post; if you're going to write off Aguero for joining City for the money then I assume you wrote off Rooney when he changed his mind about leave Utd after he got a big pay rise?

I see your point to be fair.

The Rooney thing is totally irrelevant and i really dont see what point you are trying to make with it.

I still dont really see the motivation for joining City.

 

[Biz.Kid09]

He was not offered more to go to these clubs.

You are saying Juve and Real Madrid offered more money to SA and he chose Man City?

Thats what you are saying here?

Kun Aguero was offered more to go to Real Madrid and Juventus yet he chose Man City?

He was offered more to go to Juve 100%.

Yes, can you not read?

Well At.Madrid didnt want to sell to Real but had they wanted to i am sure they would have offered him big wages. Juventus are looking to rebuild a team and wanted Tevez as the focal point IIRC before switching to Aguero. They offered him more wages than us but why would you go there? a club that has been in decline for a while now and dont even have Europa League never mind Champions League and the chance to win the Prem, FA Cup etc with a good squad of players.

I still dont really see the motivation for joining City.

Champions league? a strong chance of winning the Premier League? as well as the domestic cups?
As well as a nice financial package.

What else do you want?

Its not as if we are still in 8th place and not qualifying for europe. If we was then yes everyone can say he is going for wages.

No longer can people say this tbh because we have proven we are on the up and are looking strong candidates for all the trophies.

 

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He was offered more to go to Juve 100%.

Yes, can you not read?

Well At.Madrid didnt want to sell to Real but had they wanted to i am sure they would have offered him big wages. Juventus are looking to rebuild a team and wanted Tevez as the focal point IIRC before switching to Aguero. They offered him more wages than us but why would you go there? a club that has been in decline for a while now and dont even have Europa League never mind Champions League and the chance to win the Prem, FA Cup etc with a good squad of players.

I was unaware that both teams could top £230,000 a week, ive seen no previous evidence of such wages. Im prepared to stand corrected.

 

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Champions league? a strong chance of winning the Premier League as well as the domestic cups. As well as a nice financial package. What else do you want?

Its not as if we are still in 8th place and not qualifying for europe. If we was then yes he is going for wages.

No longer can people say this tbh because we have proven we are on the up and are looking strong candidates for all the trophies.

I meant why go to City as opposed to any other team that would be interested.

 

[BaZ87]

The Rooney thing is totally irrelevant and i really dont see what point you are trying to make with it.

How is it irrelevant? You criticise Aguero and whoever else for joining City because of the money offered to them but ignore the fact that Rooney's decision to stay at Utd was down to the fact Utd offered him more money.

 

[Biz.Kid09]

I was unaware that both teams could top £230,000 a week, ive seen no previous evidence of such wages. Im prepared to stand corrected.

Juventus have just been given a big cash injection to try and get Juve back up to winning Serie A etc.

There is no other players at Juve near them wages and they make a lot of money in revenue so they could afford a "Marquee" signing.

 

[Adrianr]

Im not saying he wont try or anything else but he joins an ever growing group of strikers at City who get a few games and are then dismissed. Its a joke of a way to buy players, its embarrassing and it shames the players who sign up for it.

I do love this particular myth. People forget just how short a time this little 'project' has been going on for. In the beginning we could only buy a certain caliber of player, so we did. One turned out to be on constant sick leave (RSC), one turned out to be impersonating a striker (Jo), and one decided he would train only when he wanted to, not to the managers schedule (Bellamy). In fact the only one really caught in the crossfire has been Adebayor, and that's if you don't believe he was allegedly ( ) finding out players wages and passing the information around the dressing room. Something Mancini clearly didn't care for shortly before booting him out on his arse. Not that he was ever the same after his ban for that celebration at L'Arse and the bus shooting anyway. There was obviously Robinho who simply arrived at the wrong time, and someone whom I think would flourish in the current side. He was bloody amazing for us even when surrounded by players nothing like the quality we have now. Shame he just threw a hissy fit, after which we seemingly did everything to accommodate him even letting him go back to Santos before selling for a bit over half what we paid to Milan.

Which leaves Tevez, possibly the most ill advised footballer on the face of the planet, but still banging them in (Not yet dismissed - Potentially about to dismiss himself but that's hardly the clubs fault). Balotelli, a class A nutjob but 20 years old, already playing superbly in the big games and just a general source of constant entertainment (Not dismissed either). Dzeko, who's been here half a season trying to get in front of the leagues top scorer for the past two seasons (still far too early either way to ascertain either Mancini's plans for him or his likelihood of being sent on his merry way - but still very far from being dismissed) , and now Aguero, who's literally been here 5 minutes. His chances of dismissal I'd place lowest of the current crop.

So, yeah. Load of rubbish really. The players are in these positions because they were happy to sign the big money contract and now not happy to take a pay cut to play football elsewhere when there is someone ahead of them in the pecking order. Not the clubs problem, no-one has the right to a starting place. They should be happy they had a few years of getting way more cash than they would have anywhere else.

 

[Tom84]

He was offered more to go to Juve 100%.

Certain players (Aguero being one) you really need to take the 'interest' in them with a pinch of salt. For about 2 years the media had us believe he was a cert to go to Chelsea only for them to confirm numerous times no supposed bid had been made.

Then there was the stories about Real at the end of last season even though Jose has a history of signing/preferring tall strong strikers like Drogba, Eto'o & Adebayor rather than small diminutive ones like Aguero, not saying those stories were categorically false just that they were unlikely IMO.

I'm not suggesting City weren't the only interested parties in Aguero but I wouldn't buy into the notion that he chose City above everybody else. Still for the Premiership as long as he doesn't flop it'll be good to see him week in week out.