Top secret US spy drone captured by Iran

Mr Krugga · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:00

[TW]Fox;20751491 said:
Yes there has. Why do you think, for example, that the entire IranAir fleet is made up of increasingly ageing old first gen 747's and Airbus A300's for example? Not because they cant afford new ones thats for sure - it's because Iran have been under tight sanctions for years and years!

It may very well be the case, I haven't followed the subject closely.

Tefal · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:01

trigger-happy said:
those sanctions actually causes them to make their own technology, they made their own missiles which is the same quality of a hawk missile.

So getting there 50 years after the hawk?

Also by who's reasoning is it the same quality?

The Funktopus · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:14

The MIM-23 HAWK was developed in the late 1950's and entered service in 1960. I'd hardly call it impressive to simply copy 50 + year old technology that you've already owned for years.

Volitous · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:18

The Funktopus said:
The MIM-23 HAWK was developed in the late 1950's and entered service in 1960. I'd hardly call it impressive to simply copy 50 + year old technology that you've already owned for years.

Yeah - but they still get a lot out of it in terms of: they now have the skills, knowledge and manufacturing capability to produce a domestic missile.

They will only improve on it, though I don't believe for a moment they've got a homebuilt S300 yet like many bloggers are stating.

Macky · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:21

Radiation said:
The freedom to travel is a basic right, next you'll be telling me iran can take down satellites just because they happen to pass above them?

Ah so you're fine with Iran sending spy drones above your house and spying on you?

Tefal · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:24

wait unmanned vehicles have a right to travel?

Does this mean i have to start respecting the rights of my toaster?

Craterloads · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:28

So if Iran started flying unmanned drones over London, 50,000ft in the air it would be OK?

[TW]Fox · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:30

Craterloads said:
So if Iran started flying unmanned drones over London, 50,000ft in the air it would be OK?

The Russians currently do and I'd be amazed if we didnt do it to them

Craterloads · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:33

[TW]Fox;20751769 said:
The Russians currently do and I'd be amazed if we didnt do it to them

Proof?

And if the UK downed one of these planes would you think it would be acceptable to hand them back?

Tefal · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:33

the Russians are flying drones over London?

got a source for that?

Brookert · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:36

This is BS if i've ever seen it.

You can blatantly see they have covered up the undercarriage because they couldn't produce a good enough mock up.

Very good fibre glass copy if you ask me.........

arknor · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:38

Craterloads said:
So if Iran started flying unmanned drones over London, 50,000ft in the air it would be OK?

no one seems to mind all the military satelites in orbit

Craterloads · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:39

Tefal said:
the Russians are flying drones over London?

got a source for that?

[TW]Fox right now, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=russian+drones+over+london

[TW]Fox · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:47

Tefal said:
the Russians are flying drones over London?

got a source for that?

Yea, it's on BBC News obviously. You know the point i was making - major world powers have spied on each other using this sort of technology for decades and will continue to do so for decades to come. You can guarantee Russia have as much detailed intelligence on us as we do on them. It's how the world works.

Tefal · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:49

[TW]Fox;20751902 said:
Yea, it's on BBC News obviously. You know the point i was making - major world powers have spied on each other using this sort of technology for decades and will continue to do so for decades to come.

errm no not really flying a military drone (or hell any unauthorized air plane since 9/11) over London would either require armed engagement of the RAF or for the Russians to have a completely undetectable drone (and according to you us too) so why on earth are the Americans using these hopelessly inferior drones if the uk and the Russians are flying magical undetectable counterparts?

Vita · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:49

loldrones.

[TW]Fox · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:51

Tefal said:
errm no not really flying a military drone (or hell any unauthorized air plane since 9/11) over London would either require armed engagement of the RAF or for the Russians to have a completely undetectable drone (and according to you us too) so why on earth are the Americans using these hopelessly inferior drones if the uk and the Russians are flying magical undetectable counterparts?

I shall retract my opinion.

Russia does not spy on any country it is not at war with and neither does the UK.

Like everyone else here I am not an expert on secret military technology so I've no idea what they'd use to do so if they did, but come on, the point I was making was fairly clear. Nations spy on each other. Have done since the dawn of time, will continue to do so until the end of time.

Craterloads · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:52

[TW]Fox;20751902 said:
Yea, it's on BBC News obviously. You know the point i was making - major world powers have spied on each other using this sort of technology for decades and will continue to do so for decades to come. You can guarantee Russia have as much detailed intelligence on us as we do on them. It's how the world works.

So you were talking out of your *** then?

You havnt got a shread of proof have you?

I would imagine if IRAN were flying drones over UK nuclear sites, preparing for military strikes, it would be more than enough to start a war.

Andr3w · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:52

FOX is right. We spy on Russia and Russia spy on us. Just as the majority of countries in the world are spying on each other.

Cosimo · 8 Dec 2011 at 18:54

Tefal said:
wait unmanned vehicles have a right to travel?

Does this mean i have to start respecting the rights of my toaster?

Start respecting right now.