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Jobs numbers below the lowest estimate I think. Also debt ceiling meeting this weekend

and QE of course

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Nice pullback on Barc and CAD so think they worth buying back again or considering next week
 
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Politics is the science of idiots

Holy hell, hate being right on Barc. Its made a new low, for now its low is a ledge to hang on.

Europe debt again is not over, Italy is next.

Gold price makes an all time high in euros, ultimately all gold miners are underated I guess. I buy back some old Condor at 5.5p

Indebted Italy has some of the largest reserves of gold in the world AFAIK , I hope that means we get a bounce


Xcite is trying to bounce, I bought a bit but I may have to sell my spec buy for a quick buck to spend on multiple bargain prices out there - HER is down :(


Would be nice to have some news from RRL, as usual it's overdue.


Theres a drought in Somalia and horn of Africa. The place could seriously use some oil business like Nigeria has.
Im not really sure why sometimes before news people get giddy presuming it'll be good but here people are more realistic/subdued yet we have like 3 different oil fields yields could increase on



Range down to 15p buy this morning, my buy order fails because everything went down at once. I not quite liquid.


Sold half XEL, buy order in 130's
 
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Yeah no where near as much as you though. Not been following the news though. What's new ?

As far as I can see not that much is pushing it up other then the fact that it was over sold.

Results are due in soon
The new CEO will make some sort of statement on the direction of the company
They bought some tech company for 18m
They just got into bed with Microsoft

I have bought some more so now my average is around 17p so I should be able to get my money back soon. which is good considering I have a lot in barc so I would not mind bringing my average down a little.
 
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Better than it was earlier, not a single company was positive in the FTSE 100. I stare at these screens all day long at work and it's becoming depressing!
 
Better than it was earlier, not a single company was positive in the FTSE 100. I stare at these screens all day long at work and it's becoming depressing!

Yah I had a heart attack when I first saw Barc down 6% in the morning. I was trying to work out how I was going to tell my wife but it seems to be better now.

Its all the bloody lazy southern europeans who are too lazy to work and seem to strike at a drop of the hat.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/03/spain-air-traffic-controllers-strike
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the red sea? not impressed today.

MTV is a TOTAL JOKE - I'm now at the stage I think I'll just cut my losses on it and sell up, so I don't have to keep looking at it and getting annoyed all the time. Anyone got any views??
 
Focus on the news not the price if possible. Treat it like any market, you dont complain if the price goes down when shopping usually unless its because its gone off. Keep it simple :)

AFAIK companies have to report significant news affecting company value. Thats why LSE is an international exchange, fair disclosure is a legal requirement.

quick google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_Fair_Disclosure
GS recently settled court claim on such things. GS and XLF relate to BARC


Range gained back a penny. Typical that I was not a buyer oh well

Barclays Appeals Order To Pay Lehman Trustee $2.054 Billion

By Joseph Checkler
Of DOW JONES DAILY BANKRUPTCY REVIEW

Barclays PLC (BCS) on Friday appealed a June ruling that called for the British bank to pay $2.054 billion to the trustee overseeing the liquidation of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.'s (LEHMQ) U.S. brokerage business.

In its appeal to the Southern District of New York, filed with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Manhattan, Barclays renewed its argument made in court that it should keep the assets in the so-called "margin account." Barclays had said previously that it should keep at least $1.5 billion of the money in the account, particularly government-issued securities with maturities of more than three months. Last month, Judge James Peck of U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Manhattan ruled that all $2.054 billion in the account, including the government-issued securities, should go to the trustee.

The ruling was part of the bigger "secret discount" lawsuit, in which Barclays otherwise prevailed.

Peck quoted a statement from the trustee's prior arguments about the fact that Barclays never mentioned the government securities during the 34-day trial. "The trial was a fight about margin and it was very clearly a fight about all the margin," placing his emphasis on the word "all." "That was clearly a correct statement."

In the more widely followed portion of a February ruling, Peck rejected most of the Lehman parent company's claims of Barclays reaping a secret windfall when it bought Lehman's broker-dealer unit in September 2008.

"The Bankruptcy Court rightly rejected claims by the Lehman estate and creditors to modify the Sale Order approving Barclays Capital's acquisition of Lehman Brothers' North American business in September 2008," said Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP's Jonathan Schiller, a lawyer for Barclays, in a statement e-mailed to Dow Jones. "However, Barclays believes the Court erred in its interpretation of two specific contractual disputes. Barclays was expressly promised certain assets, and relied upon receiving them when making the decision to move forward with this historic acquisition. We look forward to presenting Barclays' arguments on appeal."

"We will vigorously defend against Barclays' appeal," said Hughes, Hubbard & Reed LLP's William Maguire, a lawyer for trustee James W. Giddens.

Lehman last year sued Barclays for billions, accusing the British bank of negotiating a discount not adequately disclosed to the court when it bought Lehman's broker-dealer unit in 2008. Barclays argued in the months-long trial that both sides negotiated in good faith, and the deal, approved by Peck just days after the investment bank collapsed into bankruptcy, was Lehman's best option.

Lehman pressed its case that in the tumultuous days of September 2008, when Barclays was finalizing its purchase of Lehman's brokerage, Barclays scrambled for more assets and negotiated with some Lehman executives a $5 billion discount. Lehman said its bankruptcy attorney, Weil, Gotshal & Manges partner Harvey Miller, and other Lehman representatives weren't informed of the discount and neither was Peck. Lehman sought to recover what it called more than $11 billion in ill-gotten gains by Barclays.

In his ruling, Peck wrote at several points about the so-called "clarification letter" that became a focal point of the case, a letter Peck agreed on at the time of the sale should be drafted to address several complications and list some assets moving over from Lehman to Barclays. On several occasions throughout Lehman's bankruptcy and the Barclays trial, Peck emphasized he had never approved the actual letter.

But in his ruling, Peck agreed with a key Barclays argument about the letter, saying, "While not expressly approved in so many words, the clarification letter is deemed approved" by the fact that it was known that it would be drafted, and that no party objected to it in court.

While Lehman fought to prove the discount, the trustee disputed the transfer of assets in the margin account and other accounts.

In May, the two sides settled on another dispute, with the trustee agreeing to pay Barclays $1.1 billion for so-called clearance box assets that were worth $869 million at the time Barclays bought Lehman's brokerage business.

(Dow Jones Daily Bankruptcy Review covers news about distressed companies and those under bankruptcy protection.)

-By Joseph Checkler; Dow Jones Newswires; 212-416-2152; [email protected]

(END) Dow Jones Newswires

July 15, 2011 15:48 ET (19:48 GMT)
 
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hey all...had a little bit of spare cash sitting around and I thought I'd have a punt on some shares. Its been about a fortnight (which is probably nothing in terms of working the market!) and all theyve done is get lower and lower and lower!

I then found this thread and from reading the first few pages, it all sounds a bit doom and gloom...maybe I should cut my losses while my marketvalue is only down 30%?!
 
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hey all...had a little bit of spare cash sitting around and I thought I'd have a punt on some shares. Its been about a fortnight (which is probably nothing in terms of working the market!) and all theyve done is get lower and lower and lower!

I then found this thread and from reading the first few pages, it all sounds a bit doom and gloom...maybe I should cut my losses while my marketvalue is only down 30%?!

Only 30%?! Why did you let it go down that far?

If as you've said you've just taken a punt then what did you expect?
 
well maybe I'm just being stupid/naive but I assumed that it'll go up at some point! anyway, I kinda thought this sort of thing was more longterm...so pulling my shares back out within a few days cuz the value was going down seemed "wrong"?

Anyway, according to the brokers website, both companies I brought shares in are ones to buy!
 
Anyone still in GVC? Storming ahead this week (up 20%) I think a tip in Investor's Chronicle started it all off....
 
It's very difficult to predict which way the market is going to go. On market sentiment, and hype alone the ORE share price could rise. I have more faith in Condor Resources though that will go a lot higher in the upcoming months. What are your thoughts?
 
It's taken a pummeling for no reason at all other than no news, I think that unless this news is epic it'll rise within it's own 52w margin again. Unless we have a sustained period of rising now, you're looking at a 100%+ rise to get over that 52w high which to me seems optimistic. Maybe I've spent too long staring at daily prices lol.

I'm in CNR as well, another one that's being bounced all over the place. Entry points that looked very attractive 4-5 months ago are the new levels which is pretty disappointing. Especially when you consider the price of gold over the last couple of weeks.

I'd love to see these recents trends and price walk downs reversed, but until there's solid news from either CNR or ORE it's just going to be subject to this turbulent inter daily price nonsense. Both have been pretty poop of late in getting news out, ORE especially. 23rd May was the most recent news prior to yesterday! CNR were very regular over the last couple of months, then have dried up. I think this has dented investor confidence a bit.
 
I have more faith in Condor Resources though that will go a lot higher in the upcoming months.

Good because it seems nobody else really does. I wasnt invested at half penny so its hard now not to see it as broken down.
Why does it take so long, mining gold cant be that hard right :p


EMED is my biggest riser today though Ive missed the highs, it can double. Ditto for BARC though I had already sold most of my short term buys on yesterdays highs. Next time I will put in orders because my nerve fails me and I didnt really buy or profit a lot from Barc reversal. I still hold a lump at average cost 290.

I dont (or try not to ) do anything by accident. Financial services sector is topping out in a number of ways (XLF). I do see this as a good time to take profits, obviously I hope it'll rise back


Looking at SKR as my most still low priced stock. Im underwater, I may not bother to buy. Should do very well but who really knows


BP is the most positive its been for a while. Im hoping it will run a bit now, will put in an order to buy back some at 462 and see how that goes.
Worst case, it pays a div in AUG



hey all...had a little bit of spare cash sitting around and I thought I'd have a punt on some shares. Its been about a fortnight (which is probably nothing in terms of working the market!) and all theyve done is get lower and lower and lower!

I then found this thread and from reading the first few pages, it all sounds a bit doom and gloom...maybe I should cut my losses while my marketvalue is only down 30%?!


Which shares? Some shares are worth at least 10% less then they cost to buy so its really not that possible to 'win' right away

Standard advice is shares are like a 5 year bond. If you want the money back early it may cost you, 30% is fairly normal I would say in a bad way obviously

If new I'd mention unit trusts and tracker funds as the easiest low risk share type investments. In May 2008 I started a monthly payment to an Asia Pacific tracker. Somehow I made like +60% from that in the end despite being clueless and the obvious bank collapses.
 
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