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I am down with IAG, Legal and General of big numbers, brought them both on the wrong "hype" day. Iag average at £3.41 per share and L&G at £2.50.

Brought on a mad dash to get in on the trading hype, he was making thousands she was making hundreds, so thought lets try.
 
LGEN is a behemoth, will be fine I reckon if you can wait it out. IAG, well...really who knows. I’d bet it would be a net positive but weird times ahead...!?
 
I am down by over £250 today, seems like a pit at the moment. Holding the nerve, as every time prior to this it has always gone up as I have sold.

Weird times at the minute. Really got to hold you're nerve with these wild fluctuations. The market is so volatile. I think IAG will be fine in the med to long game so as long as you're happy to sit tight you'll be fine. So far I've avoid airlines but I might buy a little IAG in the next few days. I've got a little LGEN too as s long term hold, it's a solid company and will ride this out. Topped up a couple of things on Monday only to get hit today. Oh well.

Lots of red for me today as well but most of my investments are long term holds so not too worried. Only hold a third of my portfolio in individual stocks rest is VLS/funds so hopefully somewhat shielded from this volatility.

Looking at Whitbread (WTB) here...

Was tempted a couple of weeks back but opted against it for now. Domestic holidays will be popular late summer into Winter perhaps but their hotel locations are generally city based. I just can't see being that busy etc. Corporate travel again I can't see getting back to normal for quite a while especially now that people realise they don't need to hold every meeting face to face and are getting more comfortable with remote technologies.

I'm possibly a little overweight GRG at the moment. I think they'll nail the efficient C19 queuing, will be absolutely rammed (figuratively!) when they open next week, and generally are managing this well.

As soon as non essential retail is open, GRG will fly. Where else will there be to go? Fewer options than before perhaps. Could be a good LTH, expecting 22-25 per share soonish.

Not s recommendation!

I want to get in on GRG. Annoyingly I got greedy a few weeks back when it was 15ish and wanted it a bit lower then it shot up. :(
 
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Found out the reason for the dive by LGEN "Legal & General fell after a downgrade to ‘neutral’ at Bank of America Merrill Lynch."

So have to think about calling it a day tomorrow, as we might have a double dip and these can drop to half the value.
 
MetroBank I'd been mulling over for a while - first thing this morning, I honestly was ready to bask in my genius up until about 9.30am when it started to go backwards! Will hold for a while but have placed a stop quite close to my buy price.

Added to my Watchlist on Sunday evening, #derp come Monday. Do have an open position in the blue currently. See how it holds... Closed quite a bit above 110 and looks bullish to say the least.
 
I know its been said many times before but checking my funds today my only conclusion is that there is something REALLY sketchy going on with the markets under this crisis. Particular large American stocks! The amount they have shot up over May/June is staggering.
 
It’ll all end in tears...

One day, for no reason at all, the stocks will start to slowly fall, and just not stop until we hit a reasonable valuation post COVID. There will be people on the wrong side of a meme stock, or a ghost company, and see their money vanish.

https://www.joshuakennon.com/gt-advanced-technologies-bankruptcy/

Interesting read where people lost it all.

The above may never happen, but when everybody has a T212 account and puts money into bankrupt companies, perhaps the ‘smart money’ is not driving this rally...
 
Corporate travel again I can't see getting back to normal for quite a while especially now that people realise they don't need to hold every meeting face to face and are getting more comfortable with remote technologies.

Disagree there, lots of corporate travel can't be done virtually; we're a company of 9 and we've already had to book 3 nights in Airbnbs the last 2 weeks.

And then there's travel that *could* be done virtually, but let's face it, isn't as successful. Basically anything to do with sales where you simply can't beat meeting someone face-to-face.

As they say, proof's in the pudding... the pudding being the share price!
 
Disagree there, lots of corporate travel can't be done virtually; we're a company of 9 and we've already had to book 3 nights in Airbnbs the last 2 weeks.

And then there's travel that *could* be done virtually, but let's face it, isn't as successful. Basically anything to do with sales where you simply can't beat meeting someone face-to-face.

As they say, proof's in the pudding... the pudding being the share price!

I think share price is a future looking guess rather than proof, I know we expect to see a lot less air travel for business purposes in the future. And business class flights are where the airlines make the money. Interesting times ahead
 
Just looked at Premier Foods (PFD) ahead of their results on Thursday... highest share price ever/in 2 years BY FAR!

It's crazy looking at the graph for almost ANY stock in any sector and mid-March resurgence. I know 90% of people here were predicting/cautious over the likelihood of a further or second crash, but jeez, if you had balls.

PFD were 17.86, now 52.81. Why they even crashed in the first place is a question (in hindsight)... did anyone stop buying bread, flour and chocolate? :p
 
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For those not going into individual stocks, couple of new Vanguard Funds launched yesterday

https://www.ftadviser.com/investments/2020/06/09/vanguard-launches-duo-of-passive-esg-funds/

Fund house giant Vanguard has today launched two passive funds with an environmental, social and governance tilt.

Vanguard said it launched the Vanguard ESG Developed World All-Cap Equity Index and Vanguard ESG Emerging Markets All-Cap Equity Index funds to provide exposure to global markets from an ESG standpoint.

The funds are designed to give value to investors by acting as core equity building blocks for ESG-friendly portfolios by excluding companies that fail to meet independent ESG standards.

They will follow selected benchmarks from the FTSE Global Choice family, screening out companies involved in non-renewable energy, weapons, and ‘vice’ products such as alcohol, tobacco and gambling.

Companies that fail to meet the UN Global Compact Principles on labour rights, human rights, the environment and anti-corruption are also excluded.

Investors will pay an ongoing charge of 0.2 per cent for the developed world portfolio and 0.25 per cent for the emerging markets equivalent.

Today’s addition brings Vanguard’s total responsible investment offering to four funds, as the asset manager already offers an Ireland-based version of the ESG Developed World All Cap Equity Index fund and a Vanguard SRI Developed Europe Index fund.

Increasing Vanguard’s passive offering with an ESG tilt will help the fund house capitalise on two of the biggest trends to hit the asset management sector over the past few years.

A more stringent focus on costs has seen investors pile into passive portfolios at the expense of active management, while growing environmental concerns have seen ESG products' popularity rocket.

Matthew Piro, Vanguard’s head of portfolio review department for Europe, said: “Our clients have a wide variety of humanitarian, ethical, environmental and social concerns, and many want to put their money to work in a way that aligns with their values, while still meeting their investment goals.”

“As such we’ve designed these funds to help ESG-conscious, long-term investors put together high-quality, diversified equity index portfolios at a low cost. Vanguard will continue to seek ways to deliver long-term ESG offerings to meet the evolving needs of investors.”

Tom Sparke, investment manager at GDIM, said Vanguard’s launch felt like a “long time coming” as an ESG filter on passive funds had been missing for “some time”.

He added: “We run both passive and ESG funds so this is a highly relevant launch and one that we will look at closely. A negative screen is always going to be difficult to define as there are many differing opinions on what should be excluded or included.

“That said, something is better than nothing and this is a really good first step in the process and opens up the conscientious investment universe to those who believe that trackers are the best way to invest.”

Vanguard, known for its low cost products, is also set to join the advice industry, having received regulatory permissions from the Financial Conduct Authority to provide retail advice in the UK in January.
 
Not sure we need these constant updates on AAZ, it been yo yoing for the past few weeks. With a 52 week high of 177, the risks outweigh the upside.

Sigh. I'm about done posting here. I've posted informed, considered opinion and get responses like this. I think if people had looked into some of the previous considerations I've made (AA, AAZ, CAML), and bought at the 'right' time they'd be sitting on a pretty significant gain.

To make the numbers a little easier to digest. I mentioned AAZ on the 18/3 with a share price of 77p, it's now trading around 130p. CAML I mentioned at 128p, currently trading at approximately 160p, AA at 16p on 1/4, but now at 27p.

Sorry if this comes across as a little blunt. Some people will have looked into these co's beyond the 'chart' and will have made gains above/beyond the wider stock market rally (i.e. 'beating' the market). I think it's a valuable contribution, but feel free to put me on ignore. :cool:
 
All of the gold sector needs a closer look, it runs with a stride a decade long and can do nothing for very long periods but thats not now. Should be a great trade, I think its pulling back a bit presently though mines and the gold move a bit differently. Hope to buy investec gold fund under 200p and something like AAZ under 100p would be ideal perhaps it doesnt happen but Im sure it could without being any slight on actual prospects. They can pay out a nice dividend currently and I have little doubt it can keep doing that. Commodities are always risky though and often in countries under some strain.
I dont have a feel for it now as nobody cares to hear about gold but when it booms, it'll then pull back and half at certain times before then continuing to be a buy. Hope I could trade that, the run up to & past 2000 $ an ounce should make the whole subject quite irritating in the end but seems likely that happens in this period coming up. Proper investment is six years or more, last year and this year have had great opportunities to prep but after its risen a bit I'll probably start to doubt when to buy as PE will lag etc.
 
To make the numbers a little easier to digest. I mentioned AAZ on the 18/3 with a share price of 77p, it's now trading around 130p. CAML I mentioned at 128p, currently trading at approximately 160p, AA at 16p on 1/4, but now at 27p.

Fair enough you mentioned it then but that boat has sailed. Giving daily updates to a share isn't that beneficial to anyone. What are they support to do with that information? If they're that interested they would have added it to their watch list.
 
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Don’t see the value in daily updates either. I know it’s technically a “trading” thread, but I think we can elevate it to be w bit more than that. It does make me smile a bit to see certain posts about “positions” and other terminology, when many people here are effectively gambling.

It’s not just this forum, it’s the same on lots of other share threads/forums. We’ve got people who can’t understand or tolerate why a particular price has dropped, people losing money because they don’t want to hold shares for more than a few weeks and beginners asking questions that would be better suited to professional trading environments.

It would be far more beneficial if people explained and rationalised more rather than hyping and ramping. There’s huge potential in investing in stocks- we’d do well to try and help people benefit wherever we can.
 
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