Transfer Fees Have Gone Mad

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Hulk for £32m to Zenit
Witsel for £32m to Zenit
Ronaldo wanting to move from Real (Man City would need to offer £95m)


The EPL, La Liga, SKY & the billionaire owners are going to cause the game to implode big style, it's unsustainable :(
 
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Never said it was a bad deal, said it was an utterly mental transfer fee at the time, so was Ferdinand, broke the barriers for what we have now.
 
jakeke said:
Never said it was a bad deal, said it was an utterly mental transfer fee at the time, so was Ferdinand, broke the barriers for what we have now.
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Before that though you still had Veron at 28m and Zidane at 47m

What's made transfer prices crazy in the PL are the billionaire owners and well Liverpool paying 35m for Carroll. In Europe though I put it down to Real spending over 50m on Kaka and 80m for Ronaldo
 
strocky said:
Hulk for £32m to Zenit
Witsel for £32m to Zenit
Ronaldo wanting to move from Real (Man City would need to offer £95m)


The SPL, La Liga, SKY & the billionaire owners are going to cause the game to implode big style, it's unsustainable :(
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You're wrong, on both accounts. It has smeg all to do with billionaire owners, Utd aren't sustained by billionaire owners even if they are that rich. Utd bring in that much money every year, as do Barca/Real(to a degree, their tv deals in La Liga are patently unfair in every single way you can think of).

30mil transfers started happening in 97-98, how much did Ba or Cisse cost? How much was Kompany, how much was De Jong, 18mil when he only had I forget if its 6 months or year left on his contract, but it was get him for 18mil then and there or wait, get someone else they didn't want and have a lot more competition for De Jong on a free transfer.

Transfers fee's still range from tiny to huge, and it is sustainable because the vast majority of the money comes from advertising, though directly through tv deals the money those broadcasting companies pay is from advertising. Football is one of if not the most watched sport in the world, billions of people pay to watch it, advertisers worldwide pay billions to advertise on peak tv. TV money in the early 90's was next to nothing, tv money today, well, okay in 1-2 years a new 3billion deal is already done.

You can get some crappy car for £6k, or buy a Ferrari for 500k, you can buy a tiny flat/house somewhere crappy for 50k, or buy a multi million pound mansion where you actually want to live. You can buy a footballer for free, or you can pay whatever you want for one. Ronaldo has directly led to titles being won, millions upon millions in sponsorship deals that are vastly increased in value because Ronaldo is part of the Real Madrid brand at the moment. It's an investment, not just peeing money down the drain.

As with EVERY OTHER INDUSTRY WORLDWIDE, some investments prove to be fantastic, some prove to be horrific.... can you explain why football should be lots of business's running completely risk free, while the rest of the business in the world isn't?
 
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Before that though you still had Veron at 28m and Zidane at 47m

What's made transfer prices crazy in the PL are the billionaire owners and well Liverpool paying 35m for Carroll. In Europe though I put it down to Real spending over 50m on Kaka and 80m for Ronaldo
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If anyone started it, it was Lazio and Sven in the late 90's, they bought a title spending £270mil iirc in like 2 years, then promptly had to sell most of the players they bought because they were in massive debt :p

Blackburn did it to at the time what was an equally silly amount but even then the money was drastically different. early 90's vs late 90's was really the start of some tv money to realising how massively popular it was and the end of the 90's the tv money went comparitively through the roof. We won't have a bigger decade, we went from 2-3mil deals to 20-30million deals, and we still mostly do 20-30million deals. Can't remember specific player costs, but basically 25mil or something back then on a top class striker, and Aguero today for around the same amount.


Fact is as was the case back then and today, there will be 5, absolute outside chance of 10 transfers a year where you go, I can get Falcao or...... and there isn't anyone else as good in his position. I can get Ronaldo or.....?

Outside of 10 or so players then you get to, I can get Kawaga.... or Gotze.... or Santi..... or one of a dozen other players. When there is one choice, it costs you, in the 50's, the 60's, the 90's, the 2000's, the 2100's, there will always be 10-20 players worldwide who are unmatched and there is no alternative and will cost a bomb, everyone else will have so many other options that prices are kept in check. Always has worked that way, always will work that way.
 
What kind of damn fool moderator closed the transfers thread while European transfer windows are still open? Send him to bed without any tea and ban him from the Internet :p Might as well use this thread now:

Chelsea offloaded Raul Meireles to Fenerbahçe for ~£8M. Totally bemused by this one on the evidence of the CL performances last season, and all of the preseason + first three PL games.

Gregory van der Wiel signed by PSG for €6M. Fee seems quite low for such a hyped player, but he probably isn't that good anyway. PSG still have an unbalanced squad: good forwards and AM, third rate defence.
 
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Transfer fees have been crazy for years - and prices are only likely to go up

Its the untested / newest Brazilian wonderkid who hasnt ever played in Europe who are suddenly labelled with 50m euro price tags before proving anything
 
Icm76 said:
What kind of damn fool moderator closed the transfers thread while European transfer windows are still open? Send him to bed without any tea and ban him from the Internet :p Might as well use this thread now:

Chelsea offloaded Raul Meireles to Fenerbahçe for ~£8M. Totally bemused by this one on the evidence of the CL performances last season, and all of the preseason + first three PL games.

Gregory van der Wiel signed by PSG for €6M. Fee seems quite low for such a hyped player, but he probably isn't that good anyway. PSG still have an unbalanced squad: good forwards and AM, third rate defence.
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Third rate defence?

Alex, Thiago Silva, Van Der Wiel and Maxwell is pretty good imo. All "attacking defenders" but will still get plenty of clean sheets as more of the best attackers leave Ligue 1.
 
No single transfer or club are responsible, it's been a gradual increase, you don't have to look at just the biggest deals though, the price of average players has increased a lot too, which pushes up the world class prices in turn I suppose. It's all a bit of a mess really
 
Market Value™ = level of hype on FM

Hulk looks a very good player, but not quite the attitude or discipline to be a proper professional who should command a £32m move.

Witsel, could be amazing but his hype means his Market Value™ is £32m.

Happens all the type, look at the extortionate value of Fletcher and Jarvis. Baffling prices paid for players with hype but very little in the way of evidence that they are living up to the hype.

It goes on because clubs are stupid enough to fill their heads with hot air and believe it at every turn. Look at Scott Dann, Blackburn set the price tag for him to £6m, no club in the country would be stupid enough to pay that given his current form, but in 6 months the hype machine will have forgotten just how average he is and wheel out the X prem club needs a CB so hyping him up.

So what every club needs to start doing is think long and hard about their transfer policy because at some point it a massive team will end up like Portsmouth or Rangers...
 
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