Turbo diesel for £2,500?

so what if it can do 40+MPG on the motorways, the HDI will be doing 55+ on the motorways.. still substantially more..

So the point is..??

He has a choice of a HDI 110 with higher miles, or a 1.6 VTR with less miles..as can be seen on Autotrader, there is bugger all difference in price.. there are plenty of 2000/2001 at a whole host of prices..

The HDI is as fast to 60 and top end, but much better in-gear acceleration in the higher gears.. and 14+MPG fuel saving..
 
Demon said:
He has a choice of a HDI 110 with higher miles, or a 1.6 VTR with less miles..as can be seen on Autotrader, there is bugger all difference in price..
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God I really wish you'd stop saying this, it's absolutely daft.

If there is no difference between a low mileage VTR and a high mileage HDi you can bet your bottom dollar there will be quite a difference between a high mileage HDi and a high mileage VTR.

It's the same as your daft 'omg you can buy an older diesel for the same money so obviously they cost the same' ideas - it all is made frankly irrelevent when you check the price of that old/higher mileage petrol equivilent which is.. cheaper..

Not sure what my point is here as I've already recommended some good cars for him but.. just felt I had to address your continual usage of the worlds most daft statement :p
 
[TW]Fox said:
God I really wish you'd stop saying this, it's absolutely daft.

If there is no difference between a low mileage VTR and a high mileage HDi you can bet your bottom dollar there will be quite a difference between a high mileage HDi and a high mileage VTR.

It's the same as your daft 'omg you can buy an older diesel for the same money so obviously they cost the same' ideas - it all is made frankly irrelevent when you check the price of that old/higher mileage petrol equivilent which is.. cheaper..

Not sure what my point is here as I've already recommended some good cars for him but.. just felt I had to address your continual usage of the worlds most daft statement :p
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It all depends on your point of view.. I see it the other way around, you are continually coming up the same old/tired argument yourself..
Perhaps we can both be 'right' on this one.. but I have a feeling you can't be that open minded..

If I had 2.5K and was looking at a Xsara, I'd see that I could get a 1.6 VTR of a certain age/mileage.. now I also see for the same money I can have a 110 HDI, but its fractionally older (1 year or less) or higher mileage..
Now I then look at it financially..
1.Depreciation.. well it's gonna be roughly the same taking age/mileage into account, maybe, just maybe the diesel will be more desirable in a year or two with rising fuel prices.. so maybe it'll hang onto slightly more of its value.. that's marginally 1 point for the diesel
2. Insurance - the same, dead heat..
3. Fuel consumption - 40 MPG Vs 54MPG.. an easy 1 point to the diesel
4. Reliability - higher mileage or older diesel Vs newer petrol.. well, knowing how well diesels last this is pretty much even..

I honestly would appraise the decision as above, I am open to suggestions about where I am going wrong.. but I know that when I have a budget for a second hand car, I've never spent under that budget, it's always come down to decisions like slightly older but higher spec Vs newer but lower spec, or Petrol Vs Diesel..
 
[TW]Fox said:
I'm yet to be convinced about the long term reliability of commonrail direct injection engines.
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I would concur, and not just from my own experiences. HDi's in particular seem to be less reliable than the older Citroen/Pug TD's. Not massively so, but still...
 
v0n said:
Why? What's wrong with 530d?
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There have been some reports of injector faliure on older cars - and it's very expensive to fix (Over £1000). I've heard similar things about other commonrail systems - apparently the exceptionally high pressures the injectors work under are not doing wonders for longevity :(

It's a crying shame becuase I prefer the 530d.
 
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