TV firms propose election debates

[TW]Fox · 4 Oct 2009 at 19:18

dirtydog said:
Witness the fact that their policies are the same on all the major issues, for a start.

How does this make them the same party?

My opinion on some things mirrors that of other members of this forum, for example. Does that make us the same people?

dangerstat · 4 Oct 2009 at 19:19

[TW]Fox;15024440 said:
How does this make them the same party?

My opinion on some things mirrors that of other members of this forum, for example. Does that make us the same people?

There IS NO WAY anyone is quite the same as you [TW]Fox, that I can assure you

But your completely right, it's a nonsense argument. They're seperate politcal entities, nuff said really.

dirtydog · 4 Oct 2009 at 19:21

[TW]Fox;15024440 said:
How does this make them the same party?

They have the same policy and they are allies

The pretense that they are enemies is purely theatre for public consumption.

mmj_uk · 4 Oct 2009 at 19:22

Three heads of the same beast.

We are supposed to live in a free and democratic country but I don't see parties such as BNP being invited to the debate?

dirtydog · 4 Oct 2009 at 19:22

dangerstat said:
But your (sic) completely right, it's a nonsense argument. They're seperate (sic) politcal entities, nuff said really.

Actually

No

dirtydog · 4 Oct 2009 at 19:23

mmj_uk said:
Three heads of the same beast.

We are supposed to live in a free and democratic country but I don't see parties such as BNP being invited to the debate?

The Halk · 4 Oct 2009 at 19:25

mmj_uk said:
Three heads of the same beast.

We are supposed to live in a free and democratic country but I don't see parties such as BNP being invited to the debate?

What if they invited every single party standing for election? How about they don't and focus on the top three.

[TW]Fox · 4 Oct 2009 at 19:25

Why should the BNP be invited to the debate? The Independent Kidderminster Hospital and Health Concern party holds more seats in parliament for goodness sake.

dirtydog · 4 Oct 2009 at 19:27

[TW]Fox;15024488 said:
Why should the BNP be invited to the debate? The Independent Kidderminster Hospital and Health Concern party holds more seats in parliament for goodness sake.

Do they have over 1,000,000 votes?

[TW]Fox · 4 Oct 2009 at 19:30

dirtydog said:
Do they have over 1,000,000 votes?

This is irrelevent because this is not how our political system works.

As a side issue I agree with you in that votes should mean more than seats - but its not how our system works therefore it would be nonsensical to select candidates for debate based on it.

dirtydog · 4 Oct 2009 at 19:32

Even if you disregard the number of votes and look at policies, you will see that LibLabCon have the same policy and only the BNP offers an alternative.

[TW]Fox · 4 Oct 2009 at 19:34

dirtydog said:
Even if you disregard the number of votes and look at policies, you will see that LibLabCon have the same policy and only the BNP offers an alternative.

I disagree - I see differences in the policies of the main parties whereas BNP is a one trick pony. Mr Griffin is so concerned with ridding the world of nasty horrible immigrants one wonders what would happen about the other far more important issues in the country in the unlikely event he would ever be elected.

Missing.String · 4 Oct 2009 at 19:37

[TW]Fox;15024547 said:
I disagree - I see differences in the policies of the main parties whereas BNP is a one trick pony. Mr Griffin is so concerned with ridding the world of nasty horrible immigrants one wonders what would happen about the other far more important issues in the country in the unlikely event he would ever be elected.

Kill immigrants
Watch society collapse under a BNP leadership with absolutely nothing to do after that
????
PROFIT

dirtydog · 4 Oct 2009 at 19:38

[TW]Fox;15024547 said:
I disagree - I see differences in the policies of the main parties whereas BNP is a one trick pony. Mr Griffin is so concerned with ridding the world of nasty horrible immigrants one wonders what would happen about the other far more important issues in the country in the unlikely event he would ever be elected.

I suggest looking at our other policies then

dangerstat · 4 Oct 2009 at 19:40

dirtydog said:
Actually

No

Riiiigggghhhhttttt

So they aren't they in fact registered as the same party?

Some reading for you:
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1998/ukpga_19980048_en_1

dirtydog · 4 Oct 2009 at 19:43

Same policies = same party to all intents and purposes

mmj_uk · 4 Oct 2009 at 20:45

dangerstat said:
Riiiigggghhhhttttt

So they aren't they in fact registered as the same party?

Some reading for you:
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1998/ukpga_19980048_en_1

If I ask you what you want for dinner and offer you 3 pizzas with different dressings, is that democratic or just an illusion of choice? (you're getting pizza whichever you pick)

Also slightly OT but the USA's founding fathers were profoundly anti-democracy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj8ry9b6oTI