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Or let them in but don't let them out.
Grand Tour isn't live, so that's correct. You don't need a TVL as far as I'm aware.
I think the rules on the TVL site are written in a specific manner to trick people into not cancelling.
For instance, I'm currently considering cancelling my TV licence, we literally watch no live TV in our house, only youtube, netflix and other on demand; but the TVL site has the following:
Does this therefore include Youtubers live streaming, and Twitch live streaming? I've seen some stuff on reddit where people have emailed TVL and received a response that the answer is "no TVL needed for youtube and twitch live streams"... so how is that a distinction to live TV, it can't be because they aren't broadcast over traditional methods because it states "Online-Only TV" which would never have been broadcast.
Anyone got an answer?
Define live, its a streaming service, its uploaded and you can watch it at anytime.
There's my answer. If you don't want to give money to the BBC, take the aerial off your house and get a FireTV Stick
The recent Amazon Prime Premier league games are a good example. As this content is live you should have a TV Licence to view them. Most other content on Amazon Prime is streamed and not live so is watchable with a TVL
Just to confirm this- Taken from the Licensing website - https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one
The law says you need to be covered by a TV Licence to:
Which is a sneaky little addition thats fairly new as the only web-based rule used to be just Streaming iPlayer. However as stated, it is only LIVE streaming like those Amazon Footy matches or someone streaming a TV show Live on Youtube that need a license, rather than say Live streaming a video game on YT or Twitch etc which doesn't need a license.
- watch or record programmes as they’re being shown on TV, on any channel
- watch or stream programmes live on an online TV service (such as ITV Hub, All 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now TV, Sky Go, etc.)
- download or watch any BBC programmes on iPlayer.
That isn't the case yet but needing a licence for watching live TV over the internet through a competitor is already a massive overreach.
I think the BBC has enough quality and brand mindshare to do quite well on a subscription by choice model, but it won't be as wealthy as it currently is practically making the whole country pay for it, which just means it will not be able to continue in its massively over bloated, over staffed form with overpaid stars and executives.
And it may actually have to concentrate harder or focus more on things people actually want to watch, the BBC makes some excellent programming, Blue Planet, the Space stuff with Brian Cox and Horizon are just top draw, beautifully presented, excellent scripting and incredibly interesting, this is the BBC that i love and would pay for in a subscription model. The BBC 'Discovery' Channel.
Sadly this sort of programming doesn't seem to be a priority for them and when other channels try to replicate programming like this its utter rubbish, annoying even its dumbed down so much.
The BBC has a lot of value and a lot to offer, i just hate supporting them when they behave like a cartel, i can't, i don't want to give them a penny operating like this.
Personally I would have no issue with the whole BBC being defunded and made subscription based. That way "popular" things like Eastenders and big BBC productions like Planet Earth, Killing Eve & Peaky Blinders etc would still get subscription money and keep being made but things which only have a small niche fanbase will have to work harder or get better to earn their pay or just quit.
Yeah I can't remember when that "new" highlighted rule was slipped in because for years it was just Part A and C on that list, which made sense as the TV licence was to cover the viewing of the BBC "live" only, not for things like Amazon Prime Footy etc.
Personally I would have no issue with the whole BBC being defunded and made subscription based. That way "popular" things like Eastenders and big BBC productions like Planet Earth, Killing Eve & Peaky Blinders etc would still get subscription money and keep being made but things which only have a small niche fanbase will have to work harder or get better to earn their pay or just quit.
Nothing but repeats on TV why do we have to pay a license to watch old football matches and repeats of Tennis matches.
Just to confirm this- Taken from the Licensing website - https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one
The law says you need to be covered by a TV Licence to:
Which is a sneaky little addition thats fairly new as the only web-based rule used to be just Streaming iPlayer. However as stated, it is only LIVE streaming like those Amazon Footy matches or someone streaming a TV show Live on Youtube that need a license, rather than say Live streaming a video game on YT or Twitch etc which doesn't need a license.
- watch or record programmes as they’re being shown on TV, on any channel
- watch or stream programmes live on an online TV service (such as ITV Hub, All 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now TV, Sky Go, etc.)
- download or watch any BBC programmes on iPlayer.
That's not the point i know they can't make new stuff because of the virus but you still have to pay BBC your money for repeats whilst ITV have to make more effort because they have advertisers to worry about.Some people like that though that’s the thing.
The reason they have decided to make Over 75's pay is most likely due to how many are currently cancelling.