TV Licence Super Thread

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This is the problem. For a public service broadcaster there is far too much trash TV being produced.

Stuff that should be the exclusive domain of ITV :p

They've spread themselves far too thin, and now have far too many prima donna presenters who think they're superstars as well.

For every piece of quality content there is 50 trash-tier shows.

And what about the "BBC not having adverts". They do! They spent almost as much time advertising their own shows as the commercial channels spend advertising tat.

Let's face it.. the BBC has become a whale. It's not a lean, mean public service broadcaster. It's got fat on junk food.
The BBC spends ~2-3 minutes an hour on trailers - the commercial companies spend ~15-18 minutes on trailers and commercials. Is that "nearly the same"?

One of the main reasons for the BBC trailers is that it allows space to adjust programming and put in things like urgent bulletins or announce changes to the schedule, most commonly obvious on the news channel where the music intro at the end of the hour can be anything from a minute or more, to just something like 10 seconds.
Without some gap in between programs something like a weather forecast running longer due to extreme weather or the news running over due to something important, there is no way to adjust the schedule until gone midnight to get things back on time.

Also what you class as trash programming might be someone else's favourite, whilst what you watch might be considered trash by them ;)
My mother used to hate the "funny head people" stuff (basically any sci fi) but love things like "call the midwife" and "casualty", whilst we hated those and loved the science fiction and crime.

It's also worth noting that the BBC spends less per broadcast minute on TV than any of the commercial companies, which is hardly a sign of it getting "fat on junk food", it's also got far, far higher public service obligations than any other broadcaster in the UK, which tend to eat up a huge portion of it's budget, for example no one else does proper local radio/news outside of the likes of London (most of the "local" commercial stations are pure network with the only "local" content being some weather and possibly a minute or two of news that was usually recorded at the central hub with no ability to respond to what's going on locally*).



*I remember when my local radio station was actually locally based, these days if I travel from one side of the country to the other I get the same "local" presenter doing the news and weather.
 
IIRC that is paid for via the world service, because it is a language that is used widely in some areas - and most languages are "made up", the difference is that IIRC pidgin is the written version of what people learned to speak as a common tongue when there were several languages being used (a quick google suggests it's the main common language across something like 250 groups in Nigeria), especially in ex "colonial" counties where modified versions of the conqouring counties language became common (half of "english" is from French, German and Latin for similar reasons).

It'll also be very cheap to maintain as I suspect the translation from English is done largely automatically.
It's not a written language at all, from what I read :) It's purely spoken. IIRC the BBC basically invented its written form.

The point being, Pidgin aside, the BBC is arguably producing too much "entertainment" (much of which is dross), and have greatly expanded their channels, output, salaries, etc.

For a public service broadcaster there is (imho) far too much fat on the bone which could be cut, without too much detriment to its mission.

Do we really need so many dance/off, bake/off, reality TV (etc,etc) output from our public service broadcaster?

Isn't a great deal of its entertainment output better served by someone like ITV or Netflix?
 
5 years here, and the cycle of bs letters from them has gone round the same number of times.

Moving out of this flat and into a house where they can peek through my window at my (to be) 65" playing plex if they want to. They will still not get my money.

And I won't ask for them to desist. They can waste their time and money.
 
petition getting pretty close to 100k but only a few days left, see if u can get it over the line
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300118

Even if it does reach 100,000, I can't imagine the debate in parliament is going to be up to much is it?

As the initial response to that petition says, they ran a consultation a couple of years ago which showed 60% support for maintaining the licence fee approach, which is planned to next be reviewed prior to the expiration of the current charter. Alongside this, they've already run a consultation on decriminalising evasion earlier this year, which is currently having it's responses reviewed.

Even if it got put to parliament, I can't imagine much happening beyond them all saying 'yeah review it before next charter is due and see what the decriminalisation consultation says when the report is finished, what's next on the list of pointless crap the public want us to debate?'
 
So reading the official response - it doesn’t sound like anything is happening until 2027 at the earliest - at that point, people will be so embedded into internet services, they’ll be able move to a subscription model, without any knock backs and honestly, unless it’s either a damn good deal, or well worth it, I could see the BBC no longer existing in 10-20 years time...

They should either evolve now - or be prepared to be lost in the mess of all the other internet services that will be available by then.
 
Up to 97k now, really close, last push guys, sign and share:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/
I have to say that when one looks at the description of that petition it does make one weep:
. . . there radio stations especially the overseas service this is seen as the british public paying for a service they dont need or use . . .
Perhaps the semi-literate goon who started the petition should spend more time watching CBBC and less time looking for pictures on the Daily Mail and Express websites :p
 
OK - I fezz up -Paid it today and I feel like I have been scammed - I only had 18 months of free license - they even backdated it to 31/7/2020
 
OK - I fezz up -Paid it today and I feel like I have been scammed - I only had 18 months of free license - they even backdated it to 31/7/2020
If you don't watch the BBC then don't pay, simple as that, i haven't paid a penny to them since i moved into my house 3 years ago.
 
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