Why did you put up with that smudge quality on the PC rather than the turning the TV on?
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Why did you put up with that smudge quality on the PC rather than the turning the TV on?
Whilst i don't disagree with the idea. I'd imagine the cost to "licence payers" to substitute the potential loss of revenue from advertising, would push costs far higher than what people would be willing to pay for.
I think most people are begrudged about paying TVL because they know there are too many fat cats at the beeb who end up consuming huge chunks of that money, instead of funnelling it into making more programs with bigger budgets.
I would hope that the BBC have got their technical heads screwed on, they do have an account you can register for, so all they need to do is enforce the log in (i think like 4od currently do), and then when you register for an account, you have to provide a licence reference number to "authenticate" your account.
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What fat cats?
This is a serious question, the top BBC management are paid a fraction of what the commercial management are, and BBC staff seem to be able to move to commercial outfits easily and get a much higher salary (suggesting that they have skills and talents the commercial broadcasters/companies want).
Sky's head guy is paid about 15 million, ITV's top guy about 8 million, C4's 800k, the BBC DG is paid £450k (for a job that is at least as complex as the ITV CEO).
C4 is a much smaller outfit than the BBC, also publicly owned, and yet it pays it's top guy nearly twice as much as the BBC.
IIRC the BBC actually spends more as a percentage of it's income on content* than ITV or Sky, and is despite the stories in the media pretty streamlined.
*This is excluding things like the money the BBC has to spend on Government projects such as BBC World Service (Foreign Office diplomatic soft power, used to be paid for by a separate grant from the FO), and BBC Monitoring which used to be part paid for by the government as it was useful to the FO and security services to know what was being broadcast to the public in various countries.
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i can only speak for myself but the best thing I have watched on Tv last few years, has been Detectorists
And in regards the people saying, the only good stuff shown by the BBC is cheaper on netflix, I think you are missing the point, they wouldnt be on netflix if it wasnt for the licence fee. Netflix are essentially a content service, yes they make a little now, but mainly they simply are a portal providing the service for a fee.
The BBC did used to also buy some content, eg 24 first and I think second seasons were on BBC. Once it took off Sky paid silly money to get it.
The role of the BBC used to be different from now, it was arguably a necessity some years back, now no longer.
Just because I dont like something I do not brand it as useless, I hate soaps yet they are amongst the most popular shows on TV. Just because I personally dislike them doesnt make them worthless.
And in regards the people saying, the only good stuff shown by the BBC is cheaper on netflix, I think you are missing the point, they wouldnt be on netflix if it wasnt for the licence fee. Netflix are essentially a content service, yes they make a little now, but mainly they simply are a portal providing the service for a fee.
The BBC did used to also buy some content, eg 24 first and I think second seasons were on BBC. Once it took off Sky paid silly money to get it.
The role of the BBC used to be different from now, it was arguably a necessity some years back, now no longer.
Just because I dont like something I do not brand it as useless, I hate soaps yet they are amongst the most popular shows on TV. Just because I personally dislike them doesnt make them worthless.
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Well saying the general public don't agree with me can hardly been seen as scientific now can it? A majority of the great unwashed has just voted for brexit and just look at the disaster that is turning into.
If I had to list even a fraction of BBC output which I deem to be quality I would end up with RSI.
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Yes, life was much easier before the advent of such things as the Internet and Red Tops.
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Agree to disagree. Not everyone loves the BBC programming 
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Agree to disagree. Not everyone loves the BBC programming
Oh don't get me wrong I don't love everything they do, example, they have completely cleared their schedules for the next 16 days for blanket coverage of the Olympics, shocking waste of money.
To me that sounds like a poor excuse to cover for the fact there are no longer any good quality programs that justify the cost to watch BBC. It’s all repeats or average at best content. I keep asking around and no one can give me any good programs on BBC anymore. It all pales in comparison to what's on Prime or Netflix.
When you asked for documentaries of note on Netflix how would you have responded to me if I said "If I had to list even a fraction of Netflix output which I deem to be quality I would end up with RSI"
Not much of a disaster so far, 1 month on and the stock markets are back to pre Brexit levels. Going back on topic.
In the Brexit only around 51% of people who voted agreed. In the shows I listed 99% of people voted agreed at 5 star. Bit of a difference between 51% and 99%.
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All documentaries on the BBC are good documentaries - I have provided you with an outstanding example of New Zealand Earth's Mythical Islands last episode this week
You've not seen the news today then?
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The Night manager, Peaky Blinders, Line of duty, Hillsborough, War & Peace, Abused: The untold story, Dunblane: Our story, The story of china. And they also showed the People vs O.J Simpson which I enjoyed.
That sort of looks ok but not enough to justify the cost. As value for money goes against quality content BBC still looks to be pretty much at the bottom of the list. What little is worth watching on BBC I can just watch on Netflix or buy on DVD/Blu-ray for a small fraction of the price of a licence. The money the BBC licence costs covers my Netflix sub with spare cash to spend on a bunch of Boxsets, seasons or £5 Blu-rays films for what isn't on Netflix. Doing it this way gives me better quality content and more content then having a BBC licence.
£84 for Netflix (HD Price)
£79 for Prime plus its none TV benefits.
£145.50 for BBC which I consider to have overall worst quality content and more pricy.
As I said before looking back at the past 4 years the only things on BBC that interested me worked out at around £20 per episode. I would rather buy the season for sub £15 then pay £20 per episode.
Yes and it was mostly great news. The main news was the stock market is the highest its been in 12 months which means most company's are doing well, and company's that export have befitted a lot. My own investments are all up as well, pretty much the opposite of a disaster. The few bad news items on when I viewed had nothing to do with the vote.
“The FTSE 100 is at its highest level for 12 months while the 250 nets a new record close for the year.”
“News of 255,000 net new jobs being created stateside last month was a far better performance than had been expected.”
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/05/bbc-to-deploy-detection-vans-to-snoop-on-internet-users/
!!!! BBC packet sniffing party van coming to a Wifi network near you soon.
!!!! BBC packet sniffing party van coming to a Wifi network near you soon.
Yep. After getting rid of the ex last year June, the only live TV I've seen since then have been waiting in a hospital waiting room (the news reporters were having a race wearing high heels - it really seemed to amuse the plebs around me) and some Russia Today messing around with a few apps on a TV I bought. Some feminist was ranting about having to work or something.
I like a few shows like Suits and quite a few others but obviously streaming only. I couldn't begin to imagine having to wait for 9pm on a Tuesday night or whatever to watch a program I like. Not even 10 years ago, never mind in 2016. And having to deal with ads that can only be aimed at people already brain dead.
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So basically an ethernet cable and/or a set home-plugs will negate the BBC's 'detection system'? Besides, open networks and the difficulty in actually proving who was using it at the time aside, all you have to say is that a family member/mate was using your wifi to watch something and that they have actually paid their licence fee.