TV Licence Super Thread

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MissChief said:
The BBC already does these things, to a world recognised level.
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The problem is that is just a fraction of its output, now. As I said, look at BBC3.

The BBC say they need more money, and that freezing license fee at current levels will result in cuts.

Well, good. They can cut BBC3 and the programmes that don't qualify as public service broadcasting. Get back to their core competency and only that.
 
robj20 said:
It'd be the same as me asking if I can look at your PC to see if you have accessed my website which you have to pay for to view.
Would you let me come in and have a look around?
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Not you but I would let an inspector with valid ID to look around.

They won’t ever ask to see devices they don’t go that far. Trust me.

Would love to know who’s crying and who’s actually illegally watching live tv without paying for it. I would put a bet on 100% certain people in this threads avoiding them because they actually watch live tv.
 
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Stumble Bum said:
No-one should ever have to let someone into their home to prove that they don't require a licence for a service they don't use.
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Then don’t let them in. Stop crying.

You either let them in or you don’t. You either fill in the online form or you don’t. You either bin the letters or you don’t. You either file a complaint if you been harassed or you don’t.

Not my problem.

Can’t believe this threads 313 pages. :cry:
 
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GaryTheSnail said:
Then don’t let them in. Stop crying.

You either let them in or you don’t. You either fill in the online form or you don’t. You either bin the letters or you don’t. You either file a complaint if you been harassed or you don’t.

Not my problem.

Can’t believe this threads 313 pages. :cry:
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You just don't get it do you. Just because you're completely compliant to such demands doesn't mean others agree to people knocking on their door or sending harassment letters non-stop. Especially when there is no evidence whatsoever that these households are even using their service. Just because it's tv licencing you're completely complicit. Imagine any other company / organisation hassling you to check you're not using their service.
 
FoxEye said:
If it's popular then let people pay for it on Netflix or ITV.

A publicly funded broadcaster doesn't exist to make popular programming. That is not its remit.

If anything, a publicly funded broadcaster exists to make programmes the others won't, to fill a mandate for educational or other types of programmes.

e: To put it another way, I agree with infrastructure in public hands. But a BBC in public hands that competes with ITV for recreational output? No way. Why should the BBC have that kind of competitive advantage?

It's like if the govt decided to make a publicly funded game development studio to churn out a competitor to Call of Duty or World of Warcraft. That would be insane.

If the BBC wants to take money from the public it needs to fulfill a mandate for the public good. Education, arguably sports events, documentaries, etc.

If the BBC wants to compete with ITV then it should be forced to sell that kind of output and use a subscription model or advertising to pay for it.
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So the BBC shouldn’t make popular programmes that the people who fund it want to watch?

Confused.com
 
GaryTheSnail said:
Not you but I would let an inspector with valid ID to look around.

They won’t ever ask to see devices they don’t go that far. Trust me.

Would love to know who’s crying and who’s actually illegally watching live tv without paying for it. I would put a bet on 100% certain people in this threads avoiding them because they actually watch live tv.
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An "inspector"? Anyone can give themselves that title, it's not official after all. What makes the ID valid exactly? Is an ID produced at a Capita office more valid then something I print at home?

If robj20 called himself an inspector and produced his HP printer valid ID, you would then let him in? And he should be able to inspect all your devices, after all, you've got nothing to hide.
 
Longbow said:
An "inspector"? Anyone can give themselves that title, it's not official after all. What makes the ID valid exactly? Is an ID produced at a Capita office more valid then something I print at home?

If robj20 called himself an inspector and produced his HP printer valid ID, you would then let him in? And he should be able to inspect all your devices, after all, you've got nothing to hide.
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No I wouldn’t let rob in. I would ask the inspector for a number I can verify them with. If they said no and the ID looked fake then ofc I wouldn’t let them in.

He can inspect my device if they want. But they won’t.
 
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Stumble Bum said:
You just don't get it do you. Just because you're completely compliant to such demands doesn't mean others agree to people knocking on their door or sending harassment letters non-stop. Especially when there is no evidence whatsoever that these households are even using their service. Just because it's tv licencing you're completely complicit. Imagine any other company / organisation hassling you to check you're not using their service.
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You can disagree I’m not stopping you. If a company asked me to show them I wasn’t using their service I would let them. By any means they wanted me to.

No service, no problem.

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robfosters said:
So the BBC shouldn’t make popular programmes that the people who fund it want to watch?

Confused.com
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The people who want to watch the BBC's gameshow/soap/reality TV output it can pay for it with a sub.

If the BBC and/or govt wants the public to be forced to pay for it, the cost should just be the cost for the public service broadcasting element.

That really shouldn't confuse you.
 
GaryTheSnail said:
No I wouldn’t let rob in. I would ask the inspector for a number I can verify them with. If they said no and the ID looked fake then ofc I wouldn’t let them in.
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Rob is the inspector, that's the title he's given himself. The ID doesn't look fake, he's very good with Photoshop. The phone number he gives you is just his friend.

Point I'm trying to make is you let a Capita salesman in your home, under the guise of being an "inspector", in which they produce their own IDs. Any phone number they provide is obviously just going to connect to someone who going to tell you exactly what you want to hear.

What's the difference between them and a BMW salesman, who also have ID cards, phone numbers and pretentious title, or for that matter, Rob from the forum...
 
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Longbow said:
Rob is the inspector, that's the title he's given himself. The ID doesn't look fake, he's very good with Photoshop. The phone number he gives you is just his friend.

Point I'm trying to make is you let a Capita salesman in your home, under the guise of being an "inspector", in which they produce their own IDs. Any phone number they provide is obviously just going to connect to someone who going to tell you exactly what you want to hear.

What's the difference between them and a BMW salesman, who also have ID cards, phone numbers and pretentious title, or for that matter, Rob from the forum...
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Rob isn’t an TV licence inspector. You can tell a fake licence inspector a mile off.

You can say this what you said about any job. A fake salesmen, a fake bartender, a fake mortgage broker, a fake worker from Microsoft wanting to fix your PC. Etc etc and the list goes on.

Living like that in fear - my god.
 
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GaryTheSnail said:
Rob isn’t an TV licence inspector. You can tell a fake licence inspector a mile off.

You can say this what you said about any job. A fake salesmen, a fake bartender, a fake mortgage broker, a fake worker from Microsoft wanting to fix your PC. Etc etc and the list goes on.

Living like that in fear - my god.
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But what is it about being Capita salesman "TV licence inspector" that you respect so much that you let them in your house but not other salesmen? It's not about being fake, they are all salesmen, but you seem to have a lot of faith in one particular type. Their ID is as valid as any other companies ID.
 
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