TV Licence Super Thread

Brenn47 · 19 May 2017 at 17:40

Teknobry said:
about 10 years for me now. had a visit once, i took a camera out and started filming. he couldn't get away quick enough.
not had them round since.

They report all incidences of filming to Capita HQ. YouTube it and they (sometimes) have a hissy fit.

Teknobry · 19 May 2017 at 20:00

yep, i put it on youtube.

been up for ages now, not heard a thing.

Brenn47 · 19 May 2017 at 20:13

Several non payers have been *thanked* by Capita/BBC for putting up YouTube videos of visits by sending round the senior enforcement officers and a couple of rozzers to perform a home search. It's best off ignoring them and tell them nothing.

willhub · 19 May 2017 at 20:13

Can someone advise? Can my girlfriend just ignore the emails threatening to cancel the license or pass to debt collection? Or do we actually owe them money?

Teknobry · 19 May 2017 at 21:30

willhub said:
Can someone advise? Can my girlfriend just ignore the emails threatening to cancel the license or pass to debt collection? Or do we actually owe them money?

yep, ignore away.

Brenn, i was careful with what i said, nothing incriminating or offensive. they would have no grounds to get a warrant, which is incredibly rare anyway.
police do not turn up to enforce the warrant, they are purely there to prevent a breach of the peace, nothing more.

muon · 19 May 2017 at 21:34

Brenn47 said:
Several non payers have been *thanked* by Capita/BBC for putting up YouTube videos of visits by sending round the senior enforcement officers and a couple of rozzers to perform a home search. It's best off ignoring them and tell them nothing.

They can't just randomly get a warrant. They need to prove suspicion to a judge.

Search warrants can actually be challenged.

Brenn47 · 19 May 2017 at 21:38

I think it's just because they hate their staff being outed on youtube. Yeah, warrant visit are rare, they usually save them for the more militant people.

Brenn47 · 19 May 2017 at 21:40

muon said:
They can't just randomly get a warrant. They need to prove suspicion to a judge.

Search warrants can actually be challenged.

And they can't do anything without a name! Thus tell Capita/BBC nothing, wish them a nice day and shut the door.

LeeUK · 20 May 2017 at 00:54

Only today in the local paper Capita had their usual press release come news article about recent people who they have caught out in the local area along with their excuses for not having a licence. As already stated just ignore them, there is no need to enter into a conversation with them on the door step let alone let them in and certainly do not sign anything.

Ace Modder · 20 May 2017 at 01:16

what if somebody is streaming TV illegally via an IPTV service, but has no access to a legal TV service. Should they pay? they are not using a legal service.

Would that be like saying I need to pay the chemist on the high street for my illegally purchased cocaine?

/irony mode: off

spoffle · 20 May 2017 at 01:53

willhub said:
Heres a question,

Was paying it on old place, when moved out on 28th April just cancelled the TV license, now my girlfriends is getting emails saying something has gone wrong with the direct debit and if we don't sort it we'll either be unlicensed or debt passed onto a debt collection agency, is this true since we just cancelled it, it's not a contract is it? Have they got us now, as it seems if you try to notify them you don't live there they then end up finding the new address how do we get out of this one?

Why would it harm her credit record? It's not a credit agreement in any shape or form.

Brenn47 said:
Several non payers have been *thanked* by Capita/BBC for putting up YouTube videos of visits by sending round the senior enforcement officers and a couple of rozzers to perform a home search. It's best off ignoring them and tell them nothing.

Police won't actually assist them in entering a property. When they come with a warrant, they will tell you that they are coming in, but it's down to you to actually allow them. If you don't let them in they won't force entry. The police are there just to make sure nothing goes sour.

dowie · 20 May 2017 at 02:42

spoffle said:
Police won't actually assist them in entering a property. When they come with a warrant, they will tell you that they are coming in, but it's down to you to actually allow them. If you don't let them in they won't force entry. The police are there just to make sure nothing goes sour.

If they've got a warrant and you don't let them in then you'll face a further charge of obstruction. If they turn up on a regular visit then you're perfectly free to turn them away but if they've got a warrant then you'd be pretty stupid to turn them away and you'll end up with a fine or worse.

A2Z · 20 May 2017 at 02:51

I moved into a rented property few months ago and straight away got their letters...straight into the bin.

spoffle · 20 May 2017 at 03:11

dowie said:
If they've got a warrant and you don't let them in then you'll face a further charge of obstruction. If they turn up on a regular visit then you're perfectly free to turn them away but if they've got a warrant then you'd be pretty stupid to turn them away and you'll end up with a fine or worse.

Well if you're at the stage where they have a warrant, you've been doing it very wrong anyway. My point was more about the police presence isn't to enforce the warrant.

Smokey Deza · 20 May 2017 at 03:59

Vonhelmet said:
That's a slightly different proposition to all the badasses not paying when they should.

Not everyone submits to fear-mongering enforcement letters and propaganda TV detection gizmos.

Vonhelmet · 20 May 2017 at 07:43

Smokey Deza said:
Not everyone submits to fear-mongering enforcement letters and propaganda TV detection gizmos.

There we go. I'm in awe of your badassery.

spoffle · 20 May 2017 at 08:05

Vonhelmet said:
There we go. I'm in awe of your badassery.

Can you highlight which part is incorrect?

Vonhelmet · 20 May 2017 at 08:09

spoffle said:
Can you highlight which part is incorrect?

Does he sound like he's not paying because he doesn't owe it, or because he thinks he can get away with not? If the former, why not just say so? Why the bravado?

spoffle · 20 May 2017 at 08:19

How is it bravado to point out how it works?

Do you deny that the letters are made specifically to instill fear and worry in people who are prone to that?

pooley · 20 May 2017 at 11:18

spoffle said:
How is it bravado to point out how it works?

Do you deny that the letters are made specifically to instill fear and worry in people who are prone to that?

just like this back in the day, although this scaremongering would not work today that's why they don't use this tatic anymore.

https://youtu.be/8NmdUcmLFkw

can't get it to embed