Two Cars

lordrobs said:
I agree with everything you've said there but you have to remember that in your situation your "sensible" daily driver is a Civic Type R.

What I'm getting at is imagine someone has a completely impractical 2 seater sports car which stretches them to the limit financially and *** only way they can justify / offset the costs is to run a crappy couple of hundred quid banger, which to be fair they will probably end up spending as much if not more time in than the nice 2 seater sports car.

Personally that is too much of a compromise in itself, I'd rather have a single nice car that I drive all the time rather than put up with a shed just so I can go out to play on the weekends.

I'm not saying I'm right its just my opinion on the matter.
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That's fair enough :)

If I was in the situation above where I had to run a cheap banger in order to afford a 2 seater weekend sports car then I'd totally agree with you. I'd much rather have a compromise car which was good at most things.
 
I subscribe to the idea that it is not possible for me to own one car that does everything I want, so I own three.

1. 99 Vectra. Yes it is very boring, but it does eat motorway miles and costs very little to run.

2. 96 Sylva Fury. This is my fun car, but it actually gets used a lot >8000 miles a year.

3. Locost 7. I built this from scratch, but I have never quite finished it (Just needs a dash really). It will be sold shortly, and may well be replaced with a Landrover of some sort.

At somepoint I will probably buy a bike engined kit car as well.

Jonathan
 
I could, but it is currently in my parents garage & they need the space back which leaves me with nowhere to store it. Besides which I want a new project...

I will be moving house in the next 6-9 months and will be trying to get somewhere with more than just a single garage, which should let me keep the Fury and work on another car at the same time.

Jonathan
 
I gave up on 'fun' cars a while ago. There are some great cars about as mentioned in this thread, but I found I could never find anything that came close to the excitement of a bike as something to just just take for a spin in countryside just for the sake of it. A bike can navigate through the bank holiday traffic to get to the twisty stuff whereas no matter how fast the car is it will still get snarled up behind all the sunday drivers.

Hence I drive a practical, most would say boring, family saloon and then buy a bike for the summer. Sometimes I keep the bike but usually I just sell it around October/November time. After all its just a toy :)
 
eidolon said:
You can tell that you've never owned a performance car. There's no way you'd ever get 30mpg, a "run" in a performance car just doesn't happen, it's all too tempting to press the fun pedal. You drive very differently when you've got power, you don't ever have to wait for gaps, you can make progress easily which will cost you at the pumps
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If it was a choice between driving a Fiesta 1.1 or driving my BMW M3/Lotus Elise/Whatever like it was a Fiesta 1.1 when I was just having a normal journey I'd take the latter every time.


Didn't Steve just buy one for £20k? I thought they were £45k new, hardly pocket change depreciation are they?
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If you buy a new one, no, but you see how little Steve loses on it over the next few years.

Sorry but they look bland to most people. If you forget about the engine they're just boring to look at. They might be fantastic cars but just not in the looks stakes. They're never gonna have the head turning factor of a Ferrari are they?
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Looks are purely subjective so we can't really argue that - personally although I respect them as awesome cars, I think the MR2 looks bland and dated - different strokes for different folks and all that :)
 
eidolon said:
You can tell that you've never owned a performance car. There's no way you'd ever get 30mpg, a "run" in a performance car............
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They do, not everyone has to drive on a mission everywhere they go.
I could get 30mpg out of my legacy when i had it, i could even wring high 20's out of my 2.8 Granada on a run.x

I've even sat in traffic on motorbikes capable of destroying everything with 4 wheels on the road, simply because i couldnt be arsed with it.
 
Third Opinion said:
Do you get to an age when driving is no longer any kind of fun. I must admit other than getting from A-B driving has about as much appeal as re-arranging my sock draw.
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What do you drive?
 
Third Opinion said:
Do you get to an age when driving is no longer any kind of fun. I must admit other than getting from A-B driving has about as much appeal as re-arranging my sock draw.
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I dont think its age.
I'm only 29, but i spend all week driving, from 6am to 5-6pm at night.

The last thing i want to do when i get home at night, or the weekend, is bugger about "going for a drive".
Its one of the reasons i dont bother with bikes anymore either, it simply does not interest me in the slightest.
 
Third Opinion said:
I must admit other than getting from A-B driving has about as much appeal as re-arranging my sock draw.
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I think I'm the same in that respect, I'd like a fast car but driving is more of a convenience thing. I think that's maybe that's why I fail to understand the "that's a poor car" or "rubbish handling" arguments, I'll drive what I have and not be too phased either way :).
 
One of the reasons I went for the e46 M3 over the Tuscan was it need to be a daily car as well as a performance car.

In the first 3-5 years they see most of their depretiation, judging by the e36 I anticipate loosing 10k over the next 5 years even with the v8 m3 coming out

you can get over 30mpg in the e36 and e46 m3s due to the 6 speed box. I got 22-24mpg combined driving with spirited driving now and again with 90mph top speeds on my trips to work. on 60mph NSL roads I was clocking 34MPG as you are almost on tickover in 6th :D

Go mad and sub 10MPGs can be yours lol

The most economical performance car you are going to find with room for the kids and shopping in the back, you can't get that from many cars

I like Fox could not get into something mundane for going to work, it would kill me.

Yes you have the risk of your nice car being keyed etc but thats life at the end of the day.

Also if I had to spend another 3-4k on a second daily car that money could be used to cover the servicing on my "best" car or cover other eventualities.

The fact that you would be spending more time in your naff car going to and from work whilst your baby sits at home would get to me.

I do have a gixxer at home but that rarely gets an outing these days as I can't be botherred to wheel it out, and would be affraid that would be the same with two cars.

My girlfriends dad has TVR Chimera which he bought from new which has done less then 1000miles a year on, such a waste of a beautiful machine, cars are made to be used, I want to drive and enjoy every second of my car, be it a trip to the ring or being a lazy ass and going to the post office round the corner :)

Buy a car you love and show her it buy driving her at every oppotunity.
 
I have two cars and its working out great.

53 Plate Clio 1.2 Dynamique for the cold weather / snow / cold days

1.8is MX5 for the weekend and the sunny trips to work.

I can cart stuff around in the clio when i need to, i couldn't just live with the mx5 since i can't move things around in it, like other have said you can't get one car that does it all it simply doesn't exist.

I've been running the above for 5 weeks now and i'm happy the two car thing is working out great.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
You dont drive in rush hour do you? :p Nor do you have kids.

I think there two big factors in having a workhorse.
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Might get an SMGII then and stick it in full Auto mode ;)

The seats fold down, a minor inconvenience to pay for a nice car.

Although by the time I have kids ars I am hoping my wages and the price of the Present model m5 will have met, now there is a truely performance usable car!!!
 
eidolon said:
That's fair enough :)

If I was in the situation above where I had to run a cheap banger in order to afford a 2 seater weekend sports car then I'd totally agree with you. I'd much rather have a compromise car which was good at most things.
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I missed this - seems actually we agree - if I had loads of cash I'd have loads of cars and one for every occasion - your daily driver is pretty special in itself.

What I disagree with is the entire concept of buying a really nice car and then spending your normal days driving around in an old banger of an L reg Fiesta. I just couldn't do it, sitting in traffic in an old banger, it would be horrible. I couldn't manage it now and I'm a student who is, if I'm honest, expected to have a Fiesta so lord only knows how I'd manage if I was older :p
 
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