Two schoolgirls abused by 60 men in Aylesbury child sex ring, court hears

Are some people deliberately ignoring the fact that the majority of abusers are from the Indian subcontinent? Doesn't that in itself point to a specific issue rather than a religious one which covers all ethnic groups?

I have yet to see gangs of white converts to Islam carrying out these crimes. Same with Arabs, Indonesians and so on.

Thankfully however I supported the PCC in Norfolk with the victims fund and support organisations know that it's a predominantly cultural issue along with traditional attitudes and the likelihood of white girls being more vulnerable.
 
Firstly, no I don't remember that thread, as evidenced by the fact I haven't posted in it. Or are you suggesting that I'm supposed to keep track of every thread made by some random forum no mark?

Secondly, 'uneducated'? Think again.

Thirdly, before you start throwing massive generalisations about, do your research. If you had, then you'd know that my girlfriend is Muslim and you would have saved yourself the embarrassment.

Oh the "My mate is Muslim" or in your case "My G/F is Muslim" angle lmao
If she was a good practicing Muslim then she wouldn't even be with you in the first place.

I'm growing sick and tired of the same old people circle jerking and blaming Islam for the actions of a few. Let's get those Muslamic Ray Guns out shall we.
 
Exactly. Because Islam is inherently racist.
Not really, all religions are down to interpretation. People are racist & stupid & therefore take that from largely incoherent & contradictory texts.

Are some people deliberately ignoring the fact that the majority of abusers are from the Indian subcontinent? Doesn't that in itself point to a specific issue rather than a religious one which covers all ethnic groups? I have yet to see gangs of white converts to Islam carrying out these crimes. Same with Arabs, Indonesians and so on.

Thankfully however I supported the PCC in Norfolk with the victims fund and support organisations know that it's a predominantly cultural issue along with traditional attitudes and the likelihood of white girls being more vulnerable.
Is that a majority of gangs or a majority of people victims of child abuse? - they are not the same thing.

Black, white, brown, red or pink it shouldn't matter if you mess with children you should be put to death, if you ruin a child's life you should lose yours!
You are aware that a byproduct of this is a strong incentive for child abusers to kill their victims after to reduce the chance of getting caught.
 
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You are aware that a byproduct of this is a strong incentive for child abusers to kill their victims after to reduce the chance of getting caught.

Sorry but how do you know that. A murder would increase the chances of massive police intervention therefore ensuring capture? You can't say that with certainty can you. So it's your opinion - nothing more - unless you can adequately demonstrate otherwise.
 
Sorry but how do you know that. A murder would increase the chances of massive police intervention therefore ensuring capture? You can't say that with certainty can you. So it's your opinion - nothing more - unless you can adequately demonstrate otherwise.
I didn't give percentages, I said it's a strong incentive & yes it is an opinion (I didn't state otherwise, but one based off reading from many articles on this subject & other factors related to the death penalty).

There is plenty of debate regarding the dangers of higher death penalty use (people with nothing to lose on the run), the penalty will not prevent the original crime - but once the perpetrator deems themselves to possibly be likely to get caught, it adds an additional risk.

I'd say a larger byproduct is NOT ABUSING KIDS!
Because as we all know, in nations with the death penalty for certain crimes - these crimes never occur.
 
yes it is an opinion

Because you posted "Are you aware ..." then I read that as you were suggesting it is a fact. Are you aware is something I would use to enlighten someone to something that is a fact that they don't know about. If I was offering my opinion then I would use maybe "have you considered".
 
I'd say a larger byproduct is NOT ABUSING KIDS!

I don't know if there's any evidence that the death penalty has a deterrent effect and certainly not a strong deterrent effect (except for those who suffer it, then it's quite successful as they don't usually commit more crimes).

By all means be for the death penalty if you feel it is a merited outcome for whatever crime gets you riled up but in most cases it appears to be out of a desire for some form of state approved vengeance rather than because it's evidentially backed as being effective so let's acknowledge that.

Not in relation to your post there but I would note that child sexual abuse occurs across all races, religions, ages and socio-economic classes as far as I've seen the evidence to show so to pick on any specific grouping as being more culpable than any other seems to me to be rather missing the point.
 
I don't know if there's any evidence that the death penalty has a deterrent effect and certainly not a strong deterrent effect (except for those who suffer it, then it's quite successful as they don't usually commit more crimes).

By all means be for the death penalty if you feel it is a merited outcome for whatever crime gets you riled up but in most cases it appears to be out of a desire for some form of state approved vengeance rather than because it's evidentially backed as being effective so let's acknowledge that.

Not in relation to your post there but I would note that child sexual abuse occurs across all races, religions, ages and socio-economic classes as far as I've seen the evidence to show so to pick on any specific grouping as being more culpable than any other seems to me to be rather missing the point.

I'm actually generally not supportive of the death penalty. As you say whether it's a deterrent or not really is in question. From what I've read there's very little evidence to suggest it is - in most cases.
The trouble is we don't know whether it would be a deterrent for crimes below the levels of premeditated murder or not. Generally if you're willing to take a life you're a special kind of starfish anyway so whether you can truly contemplate the outcome of that action is questionable.
However...if you know you'd get nothing more than a slap on the wrist for a minor crime you might be willing to risk it for the gain. You know on the other hand that if it risks death it just probably isn't worth stealing those pokemon cards!
 
I would note that child sexual abuse occurs across all races, religions, ages and socio-economic classes as far as I've seen the evidence to show so to pick on any specific grouping as being more culpable than any other seems to me to be rather missing the point.

The question you should be asking is does it occur equally across all groups and the evidence suggests that is not the case and that does directly bear on the thread topic doesn't it.
 
Oh the "My mate is Muslim" or in your case "My G/F is Muslim" angle lmao
If she was a good practicing Muslim then she wouldn't even be with you in the first place.

I'm growing sick and tired of the same old people circle jerking and blaming Islam for the actions of a few. Let's get those Muslamic Ray Guns out shall we.

Who were you btw?
Five year old account using the name of a one year old childrens show in a thread about paedophiles. Anyway, i don't recall who you were, so I am assuming name change?

You can't use an arguement of people are picking on paedophiles for being muslim, while in the same reply saying a good isn't a good muslim for dating a heterosexual male white man.
Insanity. It demonstrates your judgement of someone you have never met, your condemnation of her, for either being female, or loose in morales, or dismissive of her own religion while in the same breath saying ithers shouldn't judge Islam on the actions of it paedophilic followers. Well true they shouldn't. Instead the can judge it directly in your judgemental dismissive statements.

So who were you? Can someone enlighten me?
 
Oh the "My mate is Muslim" or in your case "My G/F is Muslim" angle lmao
If she was a good practicing Muslim then she wouldn't even be with you in the first place.

I'm growing sick and tired of the same old people circle jerking and blaming Islam for the actions of a few. Let's get those Muslamic Ray Guns out shall we.

You're not too bright are you?
 
100% culturally, sexually repressed. Living out their fantasies on easily manipulated targets. Let em get beaten in jail by some proper chav rudeboy nutjobs..

I bet the others are well chuffed the evidence or technicalities "didn't quite" warrant some jail time.
#off the hook #phew.
 
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