Caporegime
It's almost like he's generalising you...somewhat akin to racism!
Two schoolgirls abused by 60 men in Aylesbury child sex ring, court hears
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It's almost like he's generalising you...somewhat akin to racism!
Hrmm heres what i said:
I'm not making a claim about what this something else is. Read the sentence again. I'm saying its not cultural...ergo its something else..thats Logic 101.
You're absolutely bonkers for arguing about this very minor point lol...
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because culture and religion are in no way connected no sir not at all.
I mean next you'll be telling me the liberal western culture has made religions over here accept women priests or something mental like that.
or that religion has affected the culture to the point the queen is labelled something silly like defender of the faith.
on a serious note i cant read these stories i know a few child abuse victims and I'll admit its a burying my head in the sand approach but i do not want to read or hear about what happened to these kids.
the men should just be shot and thrown in a hole and we should continue to track them down, actually listen to these kids when they tell the people who are meant to look after them they're in trouble and just keep plugging away. it will never end but the damage one person can do in one encounter to a child is just too much to ever risk them ever again stepping out into the public again, be it life in prison till they die in the walls or a bullet they can never ever be given this opportunity again.
the men should just be shot and thrown in a hole and we should continue to track them down, actually listen to these kids when they tell the people who are meant to look after them they're in trouble and just keep plugging away. it will never end but the damage one person can do in one encounter to a child is just too much to ever risk them ever again stepping out into the public again, be it life in prison till they die in the walls or a bullet they can never ever be given this opportunity again.
You're missing the point though, the argument usually goes "because that's what priests do" but my point is that they've become priests to do that sort of stuff.
The bottom line here is I don't for one minute, believe that they believe in the religion they claim to be part of, whilst doing this sort of thing.
Think about it, is someone a pacifist just because they claim they are, even though their actions directly contradict that? No they aren't.
It's not as simple as this, people claim it's BECAUSE of the religion that people do these things, as if it's actually part of the belief system. As in, abuse of children is penciled it as a must after they've made their prayers.
It's dirty old men being dirty old men, we have them as white British too, but for some reason all the white British dirty old men get called dirty old men, their race or creed is never a part of it.
well the very heavy belief that Muslims are a "selected" people, that infidels are worthless along with a serious indoctrinated system where women are considered lesser than men and you can quickly see how non Muslim, girls become an acceptable target.
yet its disturbingly disproportional isnt it.
All religious people believe they are selected people, it isn't something that's inherent to Islam.
That being said, this realistically isn't how actual practicing Muslims, who believe what they practice actually think, from my experience and others I know.
Especially considering the part of Islam where Muslims are commanded to follow the law of the land that they reside in.
On what basis? How the media reports things? When the world trade centres fell, Muslim public speakers came out and condemned it, but the media didn't give them any coverage at all, which is the basis for why people still think that Muslims "need to condemn these actions more", not that they actually do, I'm sure you don't feel the need to publicly condemn the actions of Jimmy Saville on the basis that you are also a white British male, no?
no convictions vs population %.
iirc its 52 out of the last 60 men for these gang grooming siutations have been ethically Asian, for a population that's what 1% of the total population thats a worrying disproportionality.
Caporegime
Lol. They won't like that statistic if it's true!
Permabanned
The uneducated kind. Remember when I created the thread about the Christian peodophile gang to prove a point?
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18667695&highlight=startername_Twirlywoos
In no way would I demonise an entire religion because of the actions of a few. That's just tarnishing everyone with the same brush and is quite frankly retarded. The same **** goes on in India also and that isn't a Muslim country.
It's actually 7% (as of the 2011 Census).
fair enough that's shot up. weird to think we have more Asians than black people where now then.
Soldato
Firstly, no I don't remember that thread, as evidenced by the fact I haven't posted in it. Or are you suggesting that I'm supposed to keep track of every thread made by some random forum no mark?
Secondly, 'uneducated'? Think again.
Thirdly, before you start throwing massive generalisations about, do your research. If you had, then you'd know that my girlfriend is Muslim and you would have saved yourself the embarrassment.
Soldato
Black, white, brown, red or pink it shouldn't matter if you mess with children you should be put to death, if you ruin a child's life you should lose yours!
I have at no point said that these men do what they do because they are Muslim. But at the same time I do not think it is at all helpful to say "No, they aren't real Muslims because they do bad things." You can still be a member of a faith and do things against the teachings of said faith.
I do however think that the culture they come from has some bearing on their actions and that culture also includes a version of Islam where, due to cultural and historical situations, non Muslims are seen as much less valuable people. If you take away the divine aspect of a religion it is effectively one part of culture.
Why not? People are weak, if you are religious, people sin. Sinning doesn't suddenly mean you are no longer Christian, Muslim or Jew.
Islam says a lot of things, and contradicts itself more than
any other religion but every religion is guilty of it.
Hopefully the new child credit changes will slow it down .
But when you have unemployment rates upto 75% for women and 50% of men (Muslim men and Women) for example it's more likely crime will increase , birth rates will increase etc.. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8054403/Britains-coping-classes-at-breaking-point.html)
Some people might not want to hear it , but BME groups are definitely taking advantage of that benefit.