Uber to lose licence to operate in London

100% a lie, I know a few Uber eats drivers who do this. Same goes for the ones that register as bicycles, but turn up in cars to reduce the fees.Super shady company but it’s hard to avoid them with their price and service.

Do they get paid differently then? How does it work?

I did wonder what the deal was with that, had a bunch of occasions where “Mohammed is on his way on a bycicle” only for the dude to arrive in a car or on a scooter. One time a guy actually did arrive on bike and I commented to him that I was impressed and he’s the first driver who has actually arrived on a bike, tipped him £2 too.
 
Do they get paid differently then? How does it work?

I did wonder what the deal was with that, had a bunch of occasions where “Mohammed is on his way on a bycicle” only for the dude to arrive in a car or on a scooter. One time a guy actually did arrive on bike and I commented to him that I was impressed and he’s the first driver who has actually arrived on a bike, tipped him £2 too.

just asked my friend who’s a partner of an Uber Eat’s driver. Seems that they get charged slightly more for bicycle deliveries but they don’t have to provide any documents for this. No drivers license checks, insurance, age of bike etc.. The dude uses his girlfriends picture and claims to ride a bike, he’s not legal here apparently so he uses a moped but claims as a cyclist so he doesn’t have to provide a license or insurance to Uber.

if they bothered to check his account they’d think he’s Lance Armstrong but it relies on users reporting him, which they never do.
 
just asked my friend who’s a partner of an Uber Eat’s driver. Seems that they get charged slightly more for bicycle deliveries but they don’t have to provide any documents for this. No drivers license checks, insurance, age of bike etc.. The dude uses his girlfriends picture and claims to ride a bike, he’s not legal here apparently so he uses a moped but claims as a cyclist so he doesn’t have to provide a license or insurance to Uber.

if they bothered to check his account they’d think he’s Lance Armstrong but it relies on users reporting him, which they never do.

Ah that makes more sense, worth letting uber take a slightly bigger fee for no documentation/no license or insurance etc..etc..

One guy arrived with his girlfriend in the car too - its like he was taking her out on a cheap date by cruising around delivering uber eats while registered as a bicycle FFS! :D
 
Ah that makes more sense, worth letting uber take a slightly bigger fee for no documentation/no license or insurance etc..etc..

One guy arrived with his girlfriend in the car too - its like he was taking her out on a cheap date by cruising around delivering uber eats while registered as a bicycle FFS! :D

The couple I’m friends with have done this too, apparently there’s a tonne of orders that don’t get delivered for whatever reason and they’re entitled to keep the order for themselves. Plenty of free booze and food to go around!
 
Black cabs are controlled by TFL and they hold any dodgy drivers to account personally. Uber as a company has been told quite a few times to sort themselves out. They were given a 15 month extention to fix things and still didn't. Hopefully being booted out of a major capital city will convince them to change.

I can personally vouch for the Public Carriage Office’s strict action on complaints about Black Cab drivers.
I had a letter from the P.C.O. one day years ago, instructing me to report to Penton Street N1, where the PCO was until TFL took over, and it moved to Blackfriars Road SE1.
A member of the public had complained that I’d taken him on a circuitous route from his place of work to his home.
He said that he’d noticed that he was going through Chelsea, and never went through Chelsea normally, on his route from the Hilton hotel, Park Lane, where he was an engineer, to Hammersmith, where he lived.
When asked for an explanation, I remembered the guy getting all het up about crossing Kings Road to get into Anderson Street, so I truthfully explained that I’d picked him up on the forecourt of Charing Cross station, he was well oiled, and he’d asked for King Street, Hammersmith.
The PCO complaints officer phoned the complainant, and he sheepishly admitted that he’d left the Hilton that day, and gone for a few drinks at the Charing Cross hotel, next to the station, before falling through my door, and asking for King Street, Hammersmith, case dismissed.
 
From what I understand part of the reason TFL are refusing their licence at the moment is that Uber's software allowed drivers to update their photo's with zero checks, so it was easy for people to change the photo to someone who was not the person who had been checked (if any checks had been done), meaning the whole idea of users being able to check the driver was legitimate was utterly and completely worthless, and at best you were getting into a vehicle with an uninsured driver, or worse you were getting into a vehicle with someone who was not licensed to drive anything and had a serious criminal record that would have stopped them ever being considered for approval TFL or any other similar authority.

What? that cannot be true its 2019 that's few mins of coding or a bit of AI, I mean... face recognition anyone!

I mean a phone can scan a persons face and fingerprint..
 
letting uber take a slightly bigger fee for no documentation/no license or insurance etc

all sounds counter intuitive .. if bicycle delivery costs are more then it's probably because delivery reliability(hot/quick..) is lower than cars, rather than lesser need for documentation, if you are an efficient cycle delivery person, with no claims for bad delivery, you should be better off ..
would expect some kudos from uber for the greener delivery too.
 
all sounds counter intuitive .. if bicycle delivery costs are more then it's probably because delivery reliability(hot/quick..) is lower than cars, rather than lesser need for documentation, if you are an efficient cycle delivery person, with no claims for bad delivery, you should be better off ..
would expect some kudos from uber for the greener delivery too.

You’re getting that muddled, I was referring to it being worth it for the delivery people in return for no documentation etc... I wasn’t commenting on the merits of uber charging more or less from their perspective.
 
What? that cannot be true its 2019 that's few mins of coding or a bit of AI, I mean... face recognition anyone!

I mean a phone can scan a persons face and fingerprint..

So, where’s the database of all the facial and biometric info for the drivers going to be held? On your phone? In a cloud accessible by the car service app? Sounds like a data protection nightmare.
 
if they bothered to check his account they’d think he’s Lance Armstrong but it relies on users reporting him, which they never do.
Honest question, but I'd imagine this would take Uber about 20mins to build into their software considering they're 100% tracking their drivers everywhere. I'd imagine it's already built-in and the people that they're talking about are caught pretty damn quickly.
 
Honest question, but I'd imagine this would take Uber about 20mins to build into their software considering they're 100% tracking their drivers everywhere. I'd imagine it's already built-in and the people that they're talking about are caught pretty damn quickly.

I doubt they are, I suspect, given uber's past history and how prevalent this practice is, that they only take action when users actively report the drivers/motorcyclists posing as cyclists.
 
So, where’s the database of all the facial and biometric info for the drivers going to be held? On your phone? In a cloud accessible by the car service app? Sounds like a data protection nightmare.

it would be a nightmare, possibly the sort of job only a company that has millions of £ to throw at the problem could do....
 
I doubt they are, I suspect, given uber's past history and how prevalent this practice is, that they only take action when users actively report the drivers/motorcyclists posing as cyclists.
We can agree to disagree, but I'd imagine that since what has been suggested is losing Uber money, they'd be pretty hot on fixing that. Companies like that generally don't like having the wool pulled over their eyes.
 
We can agree to disagree, but I'd imagine that since what has been suggested is losing Uber money, they'd be pretty hot on fixing that. Companies like that generally don't like having the wool pulled over their eyes.

It isn’t losing uber money, they take a higher fee from bycicles
 
it would be a nightmare, possibly the sort of job only a company that has millions of £ to throw at the problem could do....
looks as though the have crossed some of that bridge ... managing fingerprints anyway.
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insisting various city regulations, including fingerprint background checks of drivers, were too burdensome. Houston officials and Uber reached a compromise in December 2016, whereby Houston would continue to require a fingerprint check for drivers but eliminate requirements for driver drug testing and physicals through at least February 5, 2017

they’d think he’s Lance Armstrong but it relies on users reporting him
probably not a new franchise idea - Uber food , with those special Columbian toppings
 
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