UbiSoft servers down today = No single player gaming

it only installs some stuff they still read an awful lot of data from the disks. (especially the ps3 with uncompressed video)
 
I thought you could install games on your hdd on consoles though ? And that even if you did, it would still need the disc ?


Oh well, it has the same effect as DRM, changing and using discs is hugely annoying.

you can pretty much install the whole disc on the 360's hard drive but you still need the disc to prove you have the game.....otherwise people could easily just rent games and leave them on their hard drives for as long as they like.

would certainly be cheaper than buying the games....order a few 120gb hdd's for 35 quid from the bay and store about 15 games each on them.
 
you can pretty much install the whole disc on the 360's hard drive but you still need the disc to prove you have the game.....otherwise people could easily just rent games and leave them on their hard drives for as long as they like.

would certainly be cheaper than buying the games....order a few 120gb hdd's for 35 quid from the bay and store about 15 games each on them.

Correct. Needing the disc is not drm since i can do whatever i want as many times as i want, can also use it offline and sell it without the buyer having to worry whether it's been installed too many times or whatever.
 
Correct. Needing the disc is not drm since i can do whatever i want as many times as i want, can also use it offline and sell it without the buyer having to worry whether it's been installed too many times or whatever.

It restricts access to the game - you cant play it on more than one xbox at the same time so it is DRM.

You also cant copy the disk and play it on another unmodded Xbox so again its DRM.
 
It restricts access to the game - you cant play it on more than one xbox at the same time so it is DRM.

You also cant copy the disk and play it on another unmodded Xbox so again its DRM.

Yes but as long as you're not doing anything illegal, it's completely transparent DRM, which is kind of the whole point. I don't give a damn what they implement as long as it's completely transparent to me.

Putting the disk in is hardly a major barrier as far as I'm concerned.
 
I must say that I feel sorry for the buyers (renters?) of these games while at the same time I'm quite amused.

But then again, I didn't buy either game because of the DRM.

Interestingly enough, the shops I've been to can't seem to shift those games, they're piled high and stay that way. That big warning sticker don't help none, either.

It's just like being a small kid and getting a good toy for Christmas without the batteries, and all the shops are shut.
 
AFAIK Oblivion did not have any copy protection system and still sold millions, Fallout 3 I don't know but also sold millions.
 
WOW


E.A to their credit have worked well to get rid of their bad reputation as of late what with removing the 1 year download limit from the EADM Store and not using the Spore DRM on new games although with Activision and Ubisoft, anyone can look good.

Except I bought Bad Company 2, installed it, had to sign up for something, worked for 5 minutes (single player looked poor), tried multiplayer, cannot log in, my register code is already in use! Tried many times, no joy, EA FAIL. 24 hours for reply from support. No EA are still EA.
 
Who cares about that? It's possible whether they want it or not.

The way he worded it I got the impression he was saying it's legal and incentive to having a PC, yes it's an incentive but still isn't legal, and in a thread all about DRM the law is rather important.
 
The way he worded it I got the impression he was saying it's legal and incentive to having a PC, yes it's an incentive but still isn't legal, and in a thread all about DRM the law is rather important.

Hahaha, important, I'm willing to bet 75% of the posters have broken or regularly break copyright laws...


Regardless what the law is, with 1 copy of say age of empires 2, you can set up a lan game with 8 computers in your own home since it only checks for the cd at launch and then for the host at the start of the game, on an xbox you would need 8 copies...
 
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Hahaha, important, I'm willing to bet 75% of the posters have broken or regularly break copyright laws...


Regardless what the law is, with 1 copy of say age of empires 2, you can set up a lan game with 8 computers in your own home since it only checks for the cd at launch and then for the host at the start of the game, on an xbox you would need 8 copies...

Since you're using blatant piracy in your example you would just need to burn the xbox disk 8 times...
 
Got to wonder if this causes Ubisoft to pull out of the PC games market. As not worth the hassle of supporting PC market if revenue is too small compared to hassle of DRM and alike.
 
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