UEFA Champions & Europa League Football Thread ** spoilers ** [11th - 13th March 2025]

That would still have the potential for a side finishing 1st to end up with the hardest round of 16 match though. The League phase is going to continue to result in top sides finishing near the bottom of the table. We were just unfortunate this time, another season we might benefit from this.
Don't know, just seems daft having a league and then just some random next round which involves multiple draws to determine them.
 
Course there is, less chance of facing a bigger team and missing a whole round of games.
I put the top 8 so not the extra game. The chance of facing a bigger team is just as big, this year it worked out the lowest team in the top 8 played the lowest in the 24.

Why the need for multiple draws to determine the knockouts and playoffs? What would actually be wrong with highest seed v lowest all the way through?

Only reason they don't is so they get revenue from having draws most probably
 
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I put the top 8 so not the extra game. The chance of facing a bigger team is just as big, this year it worked out the lowest team in the top 8 played the lowest in the 24.

Why the need for multiple draws to determine the knockouts and playoffs? What would actually be wrong with highest seed v lowest all the way through?

Only reason they don't is so they get revenue from having draws most probably
Misread that bit then. This year it worked like that, doesn't mean it will next year.

I quite like the fact you can't pretty much predict how the whole competition will work out from day 1.
 
PSG are a very good side these days.

When they had Messi, Mbappe, Neymar and Di Maria, they could school the French league but any top team is just going to run off those guys and create loads of space.

Now they're a different beast with some work rate to go with.
 
I take it Salah had a quiet night and didn't carry Liverpool through like he has done in the league. ;).

He was far better than last week to be honest but that wasn't exactly a high bar. Had a couple of decent chances. Another night of Alisson showing why hes the best keeper in the world though. Without him this would have been done and dusted last week and PSG would have stuck a few more in last night.

Liverpool played far better and controlled quite a lot of the game but never really converted that possession/pressure into proper chances. PSG deserved to go through over the two legs. Had more quality in their team and honestly, I would say they worked harder for it as well which is not something you would have said about PSG a couple of years ago.
 
I take it Salah had a quiet night and didn't carry Liverpool through like he has done in the league. ;).
He wasnt as good as normal but at the end of the day, when the pens began he did his job and put his pen away emphatically, which is more than can be said about anyone else. Sometimes he must look around at the players around him and just think come on guys have I got to do everything
 
Missed a couple of sitters in the 1st 10 minutes, then faded and did nothing - similar to the other attackers. Shows how much slot doesn't rate Chiesa as he didn't get a sniff. Looking forward to see who he brings in during the summer as ultimately bar salah the options aren't good enough in the wide areas.
 
He wasnt as good as normal but at the end of the day, when the pens began he did his job and put his pen away emphatically, which is more than can be said about anyone else. Sometimes he must look around at the players around him and just think come on guys have I got to do everything

His penalty wasn't any better than anyone elses. I really hate watching penalties and hearing "oh that was an awful penalty" when the keeper guesses the right way and "brilliant penalty" because he doesn't. Vitinhas penalty wasn't a great penalty but it went in. Salahs penalty wasn't great but the keeper didn't move. Yes there are good and bad penalty takers but in a lot of cases its pot luck unless you genuinely stick it right in the corner with loads of pace.
 
Missed a couple of sitters in the 1st 10 minutes, then faded and did nothing - similar to the other attackers. Shows how much slot doesn't rate Chiesa as he didn't get a sniff. Looking forward to see who he brings in during the summer as ultimately bar salah the options aren't good enough in the wide areas.
I've said for a while now that this season will be the end of an era rather than last season. I'd be happy with a top 4 finish next season, I wouldnt be surprised if there was a lot of change this summer, just as an example....if we assume that VVD, Salah, Trent all move on, then assume that Robertson, Nunez, Diaz maybe, Gomez are all sold...maybe Elliott goes on loan, if that happens then the longest serving player at the club will then be Curtis Jones (6 years) and thats assuming that Jones isnt moved on, if he is then the longest serving player at the club will be Jota (5 years). I feel like its going to be a big transitional year next year.
 
I've said for a while now that this season will be the end of an era rather than last season. I'd be happy with a top 4 finish next season, I wouldnt be surprised if there was a lot of change this summer, just as an example....if we assume that VVD, Salah, Trent all move on, then assume that Robertson, Nunez, Diaz maybe, Gomez are all sold...maybe Elliott goes on loan, if that happens then the longest serving player at the club will then be Curtis Jones (6 years) and thats assuming that Jones isnt moved on, if he is then the longest serving player at the club will be Jota (5 years). I feel like its going to be a big transitional year next year.
Think robbo would be an excellent back up, question is would he accept that. He can do a fantastic job at a lower level pl club or even abroad in somewhere like Italy. Diaz I think is 100% done, offers zero attacking output and quite often is where attacks go to die. Nunez is a great option off the bench, likewise jota (big question marks over his injury record though). I can't see us going and getting odd 7 starters, again the issue is the 3 out of contract players. Think we'll see 4 or 5 come in but both flanks need urgent attention over the next 3 windows.
 
Think robbo would be an excellent back up, question is would he accept that. He can do a fantastic job at a lower level pl club or even abroad in somewhere like Italy. Diaz I think is 100% done, offers zero attacking output and quite often is where attacks go to die. Nunez is a great option off the bench, likewise jota (big question marks over his injury record though). I can't see us going and getting odd 7 starters, again the issue is the 3 out of contract players. Think we'll see 4 or 5 come in but both flanks need urgent attention over the next 3 windows.
Yeah Robertson would be a decent enough backup but I cant see him accepting that role as a National club captain in a World Cup year, as you rightly say Diaz hurts as many attacks as he helps which isnt much use and Nunez is done and dusted and is worth more to us in sale money than on the pitch.
 
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I get what you mean in terms of a goal is a goal is a goal. But it can still be a bad/poor kick that results in a goal.
Very true, you can get superb shots from 25 yards which dont go in and terrible shots from 5 yards which do go in , which is fair enough, its just that I look at penalties in a shootout in a different way, for me, in a shootout the one job of a penalty (ignoring what the keeper does or doesnt do) is to get the ball in the back of the net, if you do that then for me its a better penalty than one which is saved because its achieved its only objective. Hence for me, Salahs penalty last night was a better penalty than Nunezs pen for example
 
Very true, you can get superb shots from 25 yards which dont go in and terrible shots from 5 yards which do go in , which is fair enough, its just that I look at penalties in a shootout in a different way, for me, in a shootout the one job of a penalty (ignoring what the keeper does or doesnt do) is to get the ball in the back of the net, if you do that then for me its a better penalty than one which is saved because its achieved its only objective. Hence for me, Salahs penalty last night was a better penalty than Nunezs pen for example
Isn't it a numbers game though, if you took 100 bad penalties and 100 good penalties, how many would find the back of the net?
 
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I understand where Tombstone is coming from, ultimately a 'good' penalty is one that finds the net is it not? Take psg's 1st and Nunez's miss - both in the same part of the net, hell you would argue that Nunez's was better as it had more power but it was saved whereas the psg one went in so it was 'good' bcause the fella scored it no?

Take a panenka, would you say they are good or bad, or does it depend on if its saved?
 
I understand where Tombstone is coming from, ultimately a 'good' penalty is one that finds the net is it not? Take psg's 1st and Nunez's miss - both in the same part of the net, hell you would argue that Nunez's was better as it had more power but it was saved whereas the psg one went in so it was 'good' bcause the fella scored it no?

No
 
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