UEFA Champions League/Europa League 23/24/25 August *** Spoilers ***
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I wasn't pleased with the first half performance, second half we were much better. I wasn't expecting us to go and thrash them, their a decent team and were easily the most difficult opponent we could have asked to be matched against for the qualifying round. They've got some real attacking threats in their side and their goalkeeper was superb for the most part so no, they weren't a poor team by any stretch of the imagination. A poor team would be any one of the number of Eastern European sides that we could have been matched against.
People need to remember that we're yet again going through a transitionary period, we've just lost our best player and another player who while he wasn't great, was still quite good on his day and added a little bit of attacking spark so of course we're going to struggle for a few games. Not to mention the couple of injuries we have as well as the suspensions. On the back of losing Cesc and Nasri so late in the window I'll be pleased with a top four league finish and progression to the latter stages of the Champions League.
Certain fans want us to do the quadruple or something and it's just not feasible at all. Yeah Wenger makes mistakes, but show me a manager who doesn't make mistakes. Yes we've got some utter rubbish in the squad, but the vast majority of them are young players, they're going to make mistakes and not perform in every game, and not always take every chance their given to impress but that's the way Wenger does his business. We buy young players and we nurture them and bring them through, back the manager and his plan and give a little bit of support to the club once in a while eh.
People need to remember that we're yet again going through a transitionary period, we've just lost our best player and another player who while he wasn't great, was still quite good on his day and added a little bit of attacking spark so of course we're going to struggle for a few games. Not to mention the couple of injuries we have as well as the suspensions. On the back of losing Cesc and Nasri so late in the window I'll be pleased with a top four league finish and progression to the latter stages of the Champions League.
Certain fans want us to do the quadruple or something and it's just not feasible at all. Yeah Wenger makes mistakes, but show me a manager who doesn't make mistakes. Yes we've got some utter rubbish in the squad, but the vast majority of them are young players, they're going to make mistakes and not perform in every game, and not always take every chance their given to impress but that's the way Wenger does his business. We buy young players and we nurture them and bring them through, back the manager and his plan and give a little bit of support to the club once in a while eh.
Sure, that's all perfectly valid, and in the cold light of day it's worth considering. But this isn't the cold light of day. This is a much needed win, to relieve the horrendous pressure that's been on the side for weeks now. 30 mins after said victory is not the time to come in and **** on our parade. Especially when you claim to be a fan of the team.I can see DM's point and to be honest I usually see eye to eye with him regardless of the comments by others.
Summary of what he is trying to say: It will take more 1 game to prove that things aren't that bad but there are massive gaps in the squad. That is plain to see by everyone. It wasn't a convincing win regardless of the score and Arsenal were very lucky.
As SPW said, sometimes, a win is just a win.
Just want to say....Chesney you absolute beauty...had that penalty gone in then who knows what might have happened...hopefully our goalkeeping problems of the past are just that...we may very well have a gk who could become world class...
+1 to that baby!
Sure, that's all perfectly valid, and in the cold light of day it's worth considering. But this isn't the cold light of day. This is a much needed win, to relieve the horrendous pressure that's been on the side for weeks now. 30 mins after said victory is not the time to come in and **** on our parade. Especially when you claim to be a fan of the team.
As SPW said, sometimes, a win is just a win.
+1,000,000! to that! lol.
Reading DM's posts regarding footy as a Arsenal fan can be depressing sometimes. Guy makes some good points at times, but mostly way too pessimistic.I swear if after a match I met a guy talking like that down the pub I would slap him!
lol, I kid, I kid
But seriously, chill dude! We just WON
Now go buy Hazard ffs
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Good to see Ramsey playing regularly again too. He's looking like he is getting closer and closer to the level he was at prior to his unfortunate injury.
Hopefully this result with shut a lot of people up for a small while at least..
Hopefully this result with shut a lot of people up for a small while at least..
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Very true. Can't argue the team's record.
Sure, that's all perfectly valid, and in the cold light of day it's worth considering. But this isn't the cold light of day. This is a much needed win, to relieve the horrendous pressure that's been on the side for weeks now. 30 mins after said victory is not the time to come in and **** on our parade. Especially when you claim to be a fan of the team.
As SPW said, sometimes, a win is just a win.
Indeed.
I reckon Wenger will sign 2 players...1 fairly established and another player who isn't entirely proven but has 'potential'.
Very true. Can't argue the team's record.
Indeed.
I reckon Wenger will sign 2 players...1 fairly established and another player who isn't entirely proven but has 'potential'.
Fingers crossed he does...fingers crossed.
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I can see DM's point and to be honest I usually see eye to eye with him regardless of the comments by others.
Summary of what he is trying to say: It will take more 1 game to prove that things aren't that bad but there are massive gaps in the squad. That is plain to see by everyone. It wasn't a convincing win regardless of the score and Arsenal were very lucky.
The point is no one is saying that we are now world beaters like DM suggests. I think we are all just relieved that we have got through to the next round. We are grateful for that alone.
Personally it puts us into a better position. One it will give the team a little bit of confidence (until we play Utd lol). If we lost this game and with everyone leaving the club it would have destroyed our season.
And with the win comes CL football for another season. And with CL football we might be able to still attract some better players who want CL football.
These are the positives that we can take out of the game.
Most of the Arsenal fans are pleased for the team that we have had a bit of success.
Then we have DM who has obviously run out of happy pills again. When you support a club, you might have a little moan about them when things are bad but you support them through the tough times.
Don't get me wrong I still think we need more players fast but I see that getting through into the group stages will only help this cause.
Mata stated that we tried to sign him but he rejected us for Chelski who will pay him more, i mean have a better change at a trophy. So we are trying to sign people. It's just not working out.
Hopefullly now we are in the CL proper Hazard might reconsider joining. Then pick up a CB, DM, and a LB.
Won't be enough to replace losing Fab as an individual but better to have more options.
Chin up DM I am sure Wenger will leave one day.
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He probably saiid, we were lucky...sack Wenger...theo was rubbish...song rubbish...blah blah blah...denilson and diaby rubbish...blah blah blah...eboue is great...blah blah...Bendtner should start every game...blah balh...sack Wenger...blah blah...
Something like that
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This.
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Meee!
Hopefully see Kane, Rose, Button and maybe the likes of Dos Santos.
EDIT: OK, not Button. He has just gone out on loan.
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TEAM v HEARTS - Cudicini; Corluka, Bassong, Dawson, Townsend; Fredericks, Huddlestone, Livermore, Carroll; Pavlyuchenko, Kane.
Subs: Friedel, Assou-Ekotto, Kaboul, Kranjcar, Nicholson, Defoe, Van der Vaart.
Subs: Friedel, Assou-Ekotto, Kaboul, Kranjcar, Nicholson, Defoe, Van der Vaart.
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1-0 Birmingham Come on !!!
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2-0 nill Birmingham !!!! cant believe it.