UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINAL ... Bayern Munich v Chelsea ... *** Spoilers ***
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Well done Chelsea, it wasn't great viewing but they won the biggest competition in Europe and restored pride to the BPL after neither of the top 2 got past the group stage..
However Norwich are still the only English club to beat Bayern at home in normal time
However Norwich are still the only English club to beat Bayern at home in normal time
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It was the winning tactic thus the right and correct one. Pretty football doesn't always win you matches, hello Barcelona, hello arsenal.
Sometimes you got to win ugly.
@ Raymond, Chelsea's victory for Chelsea fans was huge. Congratulations.
Interesting that you say 'all teams' spend money, which is perfectly true, I however think that people's problem with a club like Chelsea (and indeed Manchester City) is that teams that are elevated by money, Chelsea weren't a 'sky' four side until they had money spent.
It however, for me (a student of the game), was a hollow victory. Chelsea's tactic was to just defend and not concede. I'm not against defensive football, I'm just against bad football and teams that show no initiative or ambition. I personally wouldn't want to win a Cup by playing bad / negative football. The winners are remembered, Chelsea will be remember for being a **** team that won because of luck. I'm however convinced Chelsea fans don't care.
Also; Terry. Words fail me.
Anyway, don't really want to talk about this any more
Interesting that you say 'all teams' spend money, which is perfectly true, I however think that people's problem with a club like Chelsea (and indeed Manchester City) is that teams that are elevated by money, Chelsea weren't a 'sky' four side until they had money spent.
It however, for me (a student of the game), was a hollow victory. Chelsea's tactic was to just defend and not concede. I'm not against defensive football, I'm just against bad football and teams that show no initiative or ambition. I personally wouldn't want to win a Cup by playing bad / negative football. The winners are remembered, Chelsea will be remember for being a **** team that won because of luck. I'm however convinced Chelsea fans don't care.
Also; Terry. Words fail me.
Anyway, don't really want to talk about this any more
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It wasn't the tactic that won the match though, it was Bayern's poor finishing. They had a ridiculous amount of attempts on goal. Surely if it was a defensive masterclass those shots, from excellent positions too, wouldn't have been granted to the opposition.
Well done to Chelsea, but BM lost it (with all their missed chances, and Robben's average penalty in normal time) rather than Chelsea winning it on merrit imo
Im also of the impression that Chelsea were let off a number of relatively early yellow's just as crucial /certain as Schwiestiger's hand ball in the 1st/2nd minute. (Bad foul on Ribery in the 1st half to name just one)
Im all for not having a card happy ref early in the game - but I think he backed off too much in the other direction after that early yellow.
Im also of the impression that Chelsea were let off a number of relatively early yellow's just as crucial /certain as Schwiestiger's hand ball in the 1st/2nd minute. (Bad foul on Ribery in the 1st half to name just one)
Im all for not having a card happy ref early in the game - but I think he backed off too much in the other direction after that early yellow.
Mhm much as Man Utd were getting beaten comfortably in '99 before 2 lucky goals in injury time...plus I seem to remember Bayern hitting the woodwork twice in the last 15 minutes towards the end of the game - what ifs, blah blah blah Chelsea's name is on the cup, how they got there or how they won no-one will care about.
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Every club has some luck along the way to winning it.
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No, it wasn't Bayern's poor finishing that let Chelsea win the match, it was Chelsea's better finishing when it mattered.
What does that mean? Chelsea took their chances, Bayern did not. You can't win football matches if you don't take your chances. Bayern can't blame anyone but themselves and it really does come down to that really.
Pretty football, ugly football, it is one game and yes we all like pretty football but this is a game where you would do anything to win, riding your luck is all part of it, if you can.
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Bayern's poor finishing surely led to Chelsea's being better? Also, not sure on the use of plural for Chelsea when talking about finishing in that game
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bayern/gomez had a lot of chances. they let the game slip away. and on their bench they had nothing really left to bring on later on to make q difference.
I hate all this 'they played bad football' rubbish. Football is football no matter how you decide to play it. If you win, then why on earth should it matter how you went about securing that win, as long as it was done within the rules?
Chelsea are Champions of Europe - no other team. Deal with it.
Chelsea are Champions of Europe - no other team. Deal with it.
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@ Raymond, Chelsea's victory for Chelsea fans was huge. Congratulations.
Interesting that you say 'all teams' spend money, which is perfectly true, I however think that people's problem with a club like Chelsea (and indeed Manchester City) is that teams that are elevated by money, Chelsea weren't a 'sky' four side until they had money spent.
It however, for me (a student of the game), was a hollow victory. Chelsea's tactic was to just defend and not concede. I'm not against defensive football, I'm just against bad football and teams that show no initiative or ambition. I personally wouldn't want to win a Cup by playing bad / negative football. The winners are remembered, Chelsea will be remember for being a **** team that won because of luck. I'm however convinced Chelsea fans don't care.
Also; Terry. Words fail me.
Anyway, don't really want to talk about this any more
You sound really bitter, and I m certain you won't care if you team won it whatever way either.
As for lack of ambition. What competition that Chelsea spent soooo much money trying to win again?
Local Sunday league??? Errrrmmm no, last time i checked it was the European Champion's League.
If that is not ambition. What is?
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No, it was Bayern's poor finishing. Gomez himself could have had a hat trick and that's without Ribery scuffing a poor shot, Robben taking a poor penalty, as well as the other chances which they created for themselves. Chelsea offered absolutely nothing going forward and were not for the first time incredibly lucky at the back, if the amazing defensive game plan was to concede 30+ shots on goal then I find that hard to believe...
I'm not sour though, I'm very happy for Di Matteo and a few of the Chelsea players who did deserve to win something. Oh and the small matter of Spurs being relegated to the Europa League is an added bonus.
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No, it was Bayern's poor finishing. Goemz himself could have had a hat trick and that's without Ribery scuffing a poor shot, Robben taking a poor penalty, as well as the other chances which they created for themselves. Chelsea offered absolutely nothing going forward and were not for the first time incredibly lucky at the back, if the amazing defensive game plan was to concede 30+ shots on goal then I find that hard to believe...
I'm not sour though, I'm very happy for Di Matteo and a few of the Chelsea players who did deserve to win something. Oh and the small matter of Spurs being relegated to the Europa League is an added bonus.
And Lampard could have score 50 x 30 yards screamer in the first 5 minutes.
Your point is? Lol
No, it was Bayern's poor finishing. Gomez himself could have had a hat trick and that's without Ribery scuffing a poor shot, Robben taking a poor penalty, as well as the other chances which they created for themselves. Chelsea offered absolutely nothing going forward and were not for the first time incredibly lucky at the back, if the amazing defensive game plan was to concede 30+ shots on goal then I find that hard to believe...
I'm not sour though, I'm very happy for Di Matteo and a few of the Chelsea players who did deserve to win something. Oh and the small matter of Spurs being relegated to the Europa League is an added bonus.
