UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINAL ... Bayern Munich v Chelsea ... *** Spoilers ***

This attitude that Chelsea won the trophy so we can't criticise them is so childish it's ridiculous.

It would be fantastic if Di Matteo got the job permanently because he is utterly clueless, bring it on Roman. :p
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
Personally I don't care that Chelsea defended, the game was exciting to watch for someone who isn't emotionally attached to either team. But what kind of defensive setup allows your opponent 30 odd attempts on your goal?
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That doesn't answer my question.

So are you trying to defend further up the field, hold a higher line. Thus play the risk of the off side trap failing.

A bit like Arsenal tried and failed to do?
 
The way I see it any team that can beat Barcelona over two legs (regardless of luck or tactics) deserves to win the tournament.

I'd have been more annoyed if Bayern had won it with back to back to penalty shootouts, at least Chelsea beat one of the tournament favourites in regulation time to get to the trophy.
 
Raymond Lin said:
I think you need to put yourself in RDM's shoes when it comes to understand Chelsea's defensive tactics in the last few matches in the CL.

Against Barcelona. If you try to fight them head to head at their own game, you lose. That is a football certainty, no team can match their possession or passing and trying to play like them will get you played off the pitch.

So you play to your strength, you play in a way that you can win and hope to have a bit of luck. They did that in the semi's. The first leg went to plan and kept a clean sheet. The second leg the plan was to hold on to that lead and they HAD to especially after JT got himself sent off.

In the final they were without their first choice centre back, first choice right back and their first choice midfield. With two centre backs that had been out for 4 and 5 weeks respectively, they are not exactly tested for their partnership nor 100% match fit, with Robben being a danger on the right they wanted to eliminate his threat by double team him hence the extra left back as left wing.

Not to mention the final is basically a Home match or Bayern, and they had 2/3 of the supporters in the stadium capacity. Home advantages is certainly on their side.

No doubt it was a tactical decision to play defensively. To think you would go out all guns blazing with the suspensions to the key players and the conditions of an away match in a final that these players will probably will never see again is somewhat laughable I think.

Chelsea played safe, and they won. Tactically justified. The end.
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+1.

Big players missing, bayern home advantage and the better team (imo) - of course chelsea had to play defensively and ride their luck.

Seems like some people are just a tad upset that chelsea won. :p
 
Raymond Lin said:
That doesn't answer my question.

So are you trying to defend further up the field, hold a higher line. Thus play the risk of the off side trap failing.

A bit like Arsenal tried and failed to do?
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I really don't understand what you're trying to get at now, defending further up the pitch holding a high line doesn't have anything to do with the way Chelsea played, they were in their penalty area for the majority of the game. :confused:

If you want me to answer what I thought was a rhetorical question then I would have gone out to attack Bayern, they had a first choice defender out, a midfielder playing in the back 4 and apart from Lahm their defense is pretty unremarkable to begin with. It doesn't matter how or what I would personally have done though because A. I'm not a football manager and B. I'm talking about what actually happened on the pitch, not what ifs which is what you seem to be fascinated by.

Bayern had a huge number of chances, I can't understand how you can keep defending the notion that Chelsea played an excellent defensive tactic when they gave their opponents chance after chance, gave away a penalty and basically did their best to give Munich the game on a plate. Great defensive tactics there.
 
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AGD said:
+1.

Big players missing, bayern home advantage and the better team (imo) - of course chelsea had to play defensively and ride their luck.

Seems like some people are just a tad upset that chelsea won. :p
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Bayern had just as many important players missing! They had a midfielder in defence!
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
I really don't understand what you're trying to get at now, defending further up the pitch holding a high line doesn't have anything to do with the way Chelsea played, they were in their penalty area for the majority of the game. :confused:

If you want me to answer what I thought was a rhetorical question then I would have gone out to attack Bayern, they had a first choice defender out, a midfielder playing in the back 4 and apart from Lahm their defense is pretty unremarkable to begin with. It doesn't matter how or what I would personally have done though because A. I'm not a football manager and B. I'm talking about what actually happened on the pitch, not what ifs which is what you seem to be fascinated by.

Bayern had a huge number of chances, I can't understand how you can keep defending the notion that Chelsea played an excellent defensive tactic when they gave their opponents chance after chance, gave away a penalty and basically did their best to give Munich the game on a plate. Great defensive tactics there.
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I think this explains everything I needed to say.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/blog/2012/may/19/di-matteo-chelsea-bayern
 
As a mostly Hartlepool fan I am no stranger to success, and watched last nights game to see if either team were going to be able to beat us next season (if either can even qualify for the johnson's paint trophy, good luck to them). Was watching it with a Bayern fan and just wanted to congratulate Chelsea. They weren't the prettiest to watch but then that's not what matters at that stage of a cup competition.

I have never like Drogba (all the diving more than anything) but if you take the 85 minutes on the he was on the floor in each of the Barcelona games out of it he was a machine, in defence midfield and attack I would not rather any other player out there, he was immense and just seemed to want to win more than anyone. Great to watch.

My Munich fan friend was most displeased by Robben who would always cut in an shoot no matter what. " Cut in and shoot" became the phrase of the night, which is a shame as the shooting part never came to much and I think this was a credit to Chelsea. He was also jumping with joy when they won a penalty (as you would as a fan) saying that Gomez would bury it, his head sunk when Robben stepped up. After the penalty Robben should have been taken off his head had gone and was just cutting in a shooting whenever he had the ball wasting more than he created.

Anyway just wanted to congratulate Chelsea on an entertaining game, lets hope a British team can replicate it next year.
 
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