UEFA Champion's League Final [Bayern Munich v Inter Milan] Sat 22nd May **spoilers**

I don't doubt Milito is good, but skinned him alive? The clumsiest least agile looking defender I've seen in the CL in a while, and Lucio was on the pitch(a player I think is great, but agile he is not...... not even close).

Really really poor by Bayern, the embarassing fact that they did what Arsenal do, they position themselves left to right 15yards out from Inter's box, but NO ONE makes a run at all, pass to guy standing still in middle of pitch, pass to guy standing still on left wing, pass back to midfield guy standing still.

Pass and move, they've not heard of it, the overlap? I think they tried an overlap pass a few times on the right, they weren't expecting it once which is why every time they had to break their necks just to keep it in. Other than Robben no one tried to "do" their man, at all, all night long. No one ran in pairs against a left or right back, no one ran through the middle. Half of say Messi's success, is from the fact he keeps trying, he fails with runs constantly, but you can't get through unless you at least try.

Classic and entirely boring Mourinho, sit back, tempt the other team into overcommiting defenders too far forward and catch them on the break, its not science, its not hard, most of the very top teams suck at playing against that type of setup, as really Mourinho is basically the only manager to be completely content to not even try. As they said at Barca, it wasn't poor posession that let them concede the ball the actively kicked it up the field and TOO Barca, on purpose, players get flustered as well, no one else plays like that.

Very poor of opposing managers to not try and beat him at his own game. When Inter give the ball back and refuse to attack, sit in your own box till they come forwards, Mourinho beats people by using tactics no one uses, but its impossible to not expect him to do so. Come up with some random tactic of your own, play all your strikers and wingers on the right wing, anything, its a bit pathetic that teams play into his hands every time.

Bayern defensively dont' really have any great players, barely good, the left back is a joke, the CB's slow and stupid, Ballacks replacement was truly terrible throughout, the lack of imagination in attack was embarassing.

The other thing that was strange that almost every other team does, the ball gets to the left winger, more often than not no support from the left back, and rather than the midfield pair moving across and the right winger coming much closer, Robben would stay right out on the right wing when the ball was on the left, and vice versa. its why they couldn't play one-two's around defenders, there was often no one within 20yards of the player on the ball.
 
drunkenmaster said:
I don't doubt Milito is good, but skinned him alive? The clumsiest least agile looking defender I've seen in the CL in a while, and Lucio was on the pitch(a player I think is great, but agile he is not...... not even close).

Really really poor by Bayern, the embarassing fact that they did what Arsenal do, they position themselves left to right 15yards out from Inter's box, but NO ONE makes a run at all, pass to guy standing still in middle of pitch, pass to guy standing still on left wing, pass back to midfield guy standing still.

Pass and move, they've not heard of it, the overlap? I think they tried an overlap pass a few times on the right, they weren't expecting it once which is why every time they had to break their necks just to keep it in. Other than Robben no one tried to "do" their man, at all, all night long. No one ran in pairs against a left or right back, no one ran through the middle. Half of say Messi's success, is from the fact he keeps trying, he fails with runs constantly, but you can't get through unless you at least try.

Classic and entirely boring Mourinho, sit back, tempt the other team into overcommiting defenders too far forward and catch them on the break, its not science, its not hard, most of the very top teams suck at playing against that type of setup, as really Mourinho is basically the only manager to be completely content to not even try. As they said at Barca, it wasn't poor posession that let them concede the ball the actively kicked it up the field and TOO Barca, on purpose, players get flustered as well, no one else plays like that.

Very poor of opposing managers to not try and beat him at his own game. When Inter give the ball back and refuse to attack, sit in your own box till they come forwards, Mourinho beats people by using tactics no one uses, but its impossible to not expect him to do so. Come up with some random tactic of your own, play all your strikers and wingers on the right wing, anything, its a bit pathetic that teams play into his hands every time.

Bayern defensively dont' really have any great players, barely good, the left back is a joke, the CB's slow and stupid, Ballacks replacement was truly terrible throughout, the lack of imagination in attack was embarassing.

The other thing that was strange that almost every other team does, the ball gets to the left winger, more often than not no support from the left back, and rather than the midfield pair moving across and the right winger coming much closer, Robben would stay right out on the right wing when the ball was on the left, and vice versa. its why they couldn't play one-two's around defenders, there was often no one within 20yards of the player on the ball.
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i guess you didnt see the chance bayern had 2 mins into the second half, 2 of them ran at 2 defenders and for some reason the inter defender left the bayern player and went for the ball where there was already an inter player covering, bayern player passed to his mate who was free but a poor shot led to a save.

and yes he did skin him alive, milito skinned a lot of players tonight, just like robben did. just that milito was skinning them inside and near the edge of the box, whereas robben was on the wing or 15 yards from the box.

i take it your drunk?

lucio is one of the best defenders in the world and a 90% of the people picked him in the thread i made about the top 11 players, and your having a dig about him not being agile
 
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Drunken as normal raises some decent points.

I thought Milito did well, I thought he turned the Bayern defender inside out for his second goal, but other then his goals and a few runs, don't get too carried away.

Robben as has been said, beat his man on more occasions but was either wide or too far out.

Bayern couldn't break Inter down. Inter are typical of the way the Special one plays, defensive and counter attacking and in this game they gave a text book guide on how to do that, outstanding in defence, just shutting the Germans out, forcing them to play the ball across / back because of a lack of options.

I enjoyed the game, I thought Inter were good, outstanding in what they did.

I thought Bayern just needed some luck, something to go for them, that chance at the start of the second half could have changed the Germans, could have given them confidence, ah well.

I thought the better side won.

The special one is sounding more and more like he's going to be applying his trade elsewhere next season, Real Madrid ? Hmm. His style of football won't win over the fans, he will have to win something? The League? The Cup? Eruope?
 
Chelsea played some really good stuff under him at the start with Duff and Robben on the wings.

I think given the talent at Real, going forward won't be the problem, it will be getting the forwards to defend and the team to defend in his style.
 
Tummy said:
Chelsea played some really good stuff under him at the start with Duff and Robben on the wings.

I think given the talent at Real, going forward won't be the problem, it will be getting the forwards to defend and the team to defend in his style.
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He'll need a quality striker at RM though, the formation needs one. Chelsea had Drogba. Inter Milito. Who do RM have? No one good enough, I'd probably expect JM to raid Inter for a few players. I think Kaka could do the Sneijder role. Ronaldo and Higuain on wings. Diarra/Alonso the defensive positons.

I think apart from Ramos though, Madrid need a whole new backline. Lucio and Samuel may follow JM, but they're no spring chickens anymore.
 
I agree about having a ... kinda old fashion center forward (which all his sides have had, as you've pointed out)

I agree on the other points as well.

The defence isn't good enough, it's unorganised it will get better.

Will he be in charge of transfers? :p or will Real sign players for him? :)
 
Havent really watched Real but any chance of Ronaldo being permanently central? He was getting more and more games like that before he left Utd even if it left the team unbalanced

Well done Inter - really wanted them to win and sounds like it was well deserved, couldnt watch the match as I was out celebrating my bday with family
 
I might whack a a cheeky bet on RM to win CL next season, attacking wise RM have no trouble really and he will sure them up with the defense so will be much more of a force.
 
Milito had a great game, his overall performance and first goal in particular were fine examples of forward play.
His hold up play was particularly good as he was getting a right old hoofing from the Bayern centerbacks.
 
Bayern were shockingly poor. No imagination. They passed it back every chance they had and their forward players movement was statuesque. Robben was their only player who wanted things to happen but even so...2nd half he was a passenger for a lot of the time. Rather than trying to involve himself in the play he just stuck out on the wing waiting to receive passes rather than trying to dictate play.

Inter deserved the win...not that it was much fun watching it mind :p
 
ghost101 said:
I think he would have stayed at Chelsea for a very long time if allowed to.
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Exactly, If the russian had kept his big nose out the team he would still likely be there. Having won a champions league I'm positive of that and a coupe of those league titles off united from the last 3 years.

Roman did united a massive favour. I have little doubt he will go on to win a 3rd CL title at Madrid.

He's pure entertainment, much of which is to direct the focus from the team to him. I miss him a lot in the english league.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Exactly, If the russian had kept his big nose out the team he would still likely be there. Having won a champions league I'm positive of that and a coupe of those league titles off united from the last 3 years.

Roman did united a massive favour. I have little doubt he will go on to win a 3rd CL title at Madrid.

He's pure entertainment, much of which is to direct the focus from the team to him. I miss him a lot in the english league.
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No, it's because he is an egomaniac! Today the football coverage is as much about 'The Special One' to Real as about Inter winning the CL for the first time in ~50 years, all because he wanted to be in the limelight.
 
There's no chance JM would still be at Chelsea now. He walked out on Benfica, he walked out on Porto, he's walking out on Inter and although he technically got the bullet at Chelsea, he played just as big a part as RA in him leaving.

He loves being centre of attention and it's not just about taking the pressure of his team. I remember an interview he gave after winning the 2nd title with Chelsea and all he spoke about was his achievement of winning x amount of titles in a row (including Porto's) and it was the same before the Bacra CL tie, he kept talking about how unlucky he was in semi's with Chelsea etc.

In many respects Real's going to be his toughest task; not only will he have to compete with arguably the best domestic side in a long time but he's got to do it in style and keep his mouth shut. The likes of Capello got sacked for playing boring football despite winning titles every season and people like Toschack who got fired for speaking out of turn.

For 1 reason or another he won't be at Real for long and I wouldn't bet against his next job being at City.
 
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BaZ87 said:
For 1 reason or another he won't be at Real for long and I wouldn't be against his next job being at City.
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I agree with the first point but disagree with the second

Unless he wins the Champions League next season then Madrid will sack him, it's what they do

His next job in England will be at United, it's as clear as day that's the job he's waiting for
 
I wouldn't bet on it.

Why would he join Utd with a limited amount of money to spend when he could go to City (who will have established themselves in the CL etc in a couple of years) and have a unlimited budget?

Equally why would Utd want to go from Fergie who's built a legacy to somebody like JM who'll leave after a couple of years regardless of how things are?

Mourinho joinig Utd makes no sense whatsoever.
 
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