UEFA EURO 2016 Qualifiers ** spoilers ** [3rd - 8th September 2015]

There's already a lot more movement up front with Rooney on the bench.

I'd say the opposite, Kane hasn't done anything of note since he replaced Rooney. Not sure if he's touched the ball yet... (he'll probably score now :))
 
Shelvy has been great, always had high hopes for him but he really didn't get a chance at Liverpool

Kinda hard to judge considering they're playing what amounts to an amateur team but he'd be my man of the match. More so in the first half.
 
Just out of interest, what is your problem with Rooney? Genuine question :)

He's more of a product than a top footballer, has been for years especially for England. If you listened purely to the media you'd think he was the 3rd best player in the world.
 
He's more of a product than a top footballer, has been for years especially for England. If you listened purely to the media you'd think he was the 3rd best player in the world.

For once I agree with you. We make products for commercial application for England. He looked promising, once, got the big move so Utd pushed him as the head of the team, they put his face on games and kids buy his shirt. At some point Rooney the commercial product and his value FAR surpassed his value as a footballer. Even as his football gets worse and worse years of investment in his commercial value means he's still got his face on products, still on adverts for things linked to Utd and needs to be played for that rather than his footballing ability.

At his best, he was a pretty limited but effective striker, he was never technically gifted, always a dodgy passer. he had power, drive and a decent shot that was about it. He lost his drive 3-4 years ago, his effectiveness has dropped off a cliff.

If he'd been the same player who never left Everton or moved to Spurs for 10mil he'd never have become the product to be pushed by a top team, then wouldn't of happened for England and he'd have been benched a long time ago for England.

As you say media has pretended he's one of the worlds best for years. At one time he looked like he MIGHT become one of the best strikers, at some point in the media this just became IS one of the worlds best strikers but he never actually got there and for 4 years he hasn't looked capable of getting anywhere near worlds best strikers.
 
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