UEFA EUROPA LEAGUE FINAL ... Benfica v Chelsea ... *** Spoilers ***

Deserved to win either game is rather generous imo anyway. They played defensively, fine, they had worse teams each game, but they were absolutely dominated and it was the other teams playing poorly, not Chelsea playing well, that got them through. Gomez missed what, at least 3 good chances in the final? Robben missed a penalty and Drogba only scored from a corner... As for the Barca games, well Barca (Messi?) just couldn't finish their dinner, that's all that got Chelsea through, saying they deserved it is imo just so, so generous.
One side has to deserve to win a game and both Bayern and Barca had the opportunities to win but they didn't take their chances.

Along the same lines as what Pighardia was saying, I'm a firm believer that you get what you deserve in football (aside from in games where you may be on the wrong end of poor decisions). I disagree with him about playing better. Both Barca and Bayern played the far better football and were let down by one or two attacking players failing to take their chances.
 
I'd argue that playing better means deserving to win the game but I guess if you don't take your chances you are arguably flouting what you 'deserve'.
 
Why the **** would he not lift it? He had an ankle injury and played in the Europa League previously.

Such ballbags. Was anyone criticising Rooney on the weekend? No.

Haters gonna hater. 11 trophies in 10 years. Making history, not reliving it. (Awaits the standard BUT YOU BOUGHT IT WAH WAH WAH)

Always Liverpool fans who are up their own arse.

Night.

It's easy to dislike Chelsea with supporters like you (and a large section of your support but for different reasons) and captains like Terry. Yourself aside, the other Chelsea supporters on this forum can actually post without sounding like total ****s.

Again, Terry wasn't in the match day squad for the final (and hasn't often been in the side at all this season) and took away the moment that Lampard should have had.

In isolation tonight's decision wasn't as bad as last year, where his moronic actions almost cost the club a place in the final, but for him to again have no shame and to take the spotlight was incredible.

edit: note to whichever Don picks up Gustov's rtm - I said he sounded like a **** not that he was one.
 
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There was no luck involved at all. They beat all those teams fair and square.... You can have as much possession, and have as many shots as you want, means nothing if you don't score! Chelsea outplayed them, and I don't understand how anyone could say otherwise.

Wow, you must be another Chelsea fanboy. I just gave you clear statistics and you go and say they outplayed all these teams. Facts don't support this, simple basic statistics go against your outplayed argument. I suggest you got to spec savers and get your self a pair there and then and re watch the three games.

Anyway what is even more pathetic of Chelsea is the way they played all of these games, parking the bus and lumping the ball forward. You would expect slightly better than Sunday pub football from a football team that spend about a billion in the last 10 years.

You sum up everything that is wrong with English football. It doesn't matter if we got a footballing lesson, as long as we won. Football is about entertainment and I fear for it, if that's the future, park the bus and play counter attack and hope when opposition do score, they get ruled for offside.
 
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It's easy to dislike Chelsea with supporters like you (and a large section of your support but for different reasons) and captains like Terry. Yourself aside, the other Chelsea supporters on this forum can actually post without sounding like total ****s.

Again, Terry wasn't in the match day squad for the final (and hasn't often been in the side at all this season) and took away the moment that Lampard should have had.

In isolation tonight's decision wasn't as bad as last year, where his moronic actions almost cost the club a place in the final, but for him to again have no shame and to take the spotlight was incredible.

edit: note to whichever Don picks up Gustov's rtm - I said he sounded like a **** not that he was one.

No one seemed to remotely care that Ivanovic got dressed exactly the same as Terry for the celebrations last year, nor has Lampard played significantly more games than Terry in Europe, precisely one game more in fact. He's the captain, he's played the same amount as Lampard but is the captain.

Loads of other players have done the same, for all kinds of cups, because teams are just that. Kit men get to lift the trophy, as do coaches, and managers, and owners, because while fans often see the performance on the pitch and ignore everything else. Every training session where some unused backup player gives the first team someone to train against, they are helping in every competition the first team plays in, as does the kit guy, and everyone else.

Terry has played in 8 games total in Europe, Lampard 9 including tonight, there is no reason Lampard deserved to lift the trophy more than any other player, captains are usually the first to lift it even if they haven't played.

Despite the fact Ashley Williams has played most games this season is effectively the captain in the majority of games, and Gary Monk has not played much at all this season, Ashley Williams lifted the cup together with the club captain(okay he did play) because Gary monk is the long standing captain that has been a crucial part of the team for years, and as such was given the honour. Terry has been integral to every success Chelsea has had in the past decade, and he's been captain for most of it, and as much as people dislike it, its very clearly personal and the inability to not be biased.

If Puyol went up in his kit and was given the chance to lift the trophy, despite missing the final, no one would have given a flying crap. No one cared when Abidal, or other injured players were given the option.

Honestly hate Chelsea, hate Terry, but randomly ignoring how important he's been for the team for so long and pretending he has absolutely no right to lift the trophy is just showing how ridiculous some people on here are.

I hate Gerrard, think he should have gone to jail for what he did, but would I give a crap if he lifted a cup despite not playing, no he's a huge part of the Liverpool team and has been for a decade.
 
It's easy to dislike Chelsea with supporters like you (and a large section of your support but for different reasons) and captains like Terry. Yourself aside, the other Chelsea supporters on this forum can actually post without sounding like total ****s.

Again, Terry wasn't in the match day squad for the final (and hasn't often been in the side at all this season) and took away the moment that Lampard should have had.

In isolation tonight's decision wasn't as bad as last year, where his moronic actions almost cost the club a place in the final, but for him to again have no shame and to take the spotlight was incredible.

edit: note to whichever Don picks up Gustov's rtm - I said he sounded like a **** not that he was one.

That's because the majority of Chelsea fans on here aren't biased beyond the point of excreting the colour red.

I can guarantee you that Terry lifting the cup raises your blood pressure (quite clearly) more than Lampard's. He could not give the smallest **** that Terry lifted the cup - they're lifelong friends and have played together for YEARS. They actually lifted the cup together and Lampard was wearing the captains armband so you're talking blinkered rubbish again.

You just come across like a bitter jealous Liverpool fan who winces at the sight of Chelsea success. Additionally, No reply on my Rooney point I see?

Terry has every right to lift every competition we win - he's the club captain and Chelsea through and through. Get over it.

Also agree with everything DM said (minus the hating Chelsea part...)

edit: note to whichever Don picks up Baz's rtm - It could be worse, he could be Purdy.
 
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I doubt anyone would have any issues if the trophy was passed down the line and Terry lifted it as part of the group of other payers that didn't play in the final.

Additionally, No reply on my Rooney point I see?

He isn't captain and doesn't lift the trophy 1st? Irrelevant point.
 
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Just goes to show how highly regarded Benitez should be by Chelsea fans. Up there with the best.

It was more his past history and who he was rather that what he could do. Some of his comments throughout the season didnt help. He has done a good job under tough circumstances but then he did inherit a team that had just won the champions league plus players like Hazard. He just needed to get them playing again which isnt always easy.


In regards to Terry, UEFA regulations insists that any player who wishes to lift the trophy must be wearing kit.

Terry and Lampard have lifted previous trophies together so its nothing out of the ordinary.

Torres had one of his best games i have seen him last night. He hasnt played well for a few seasons but the guy just seems to be winning so many trophies :eek: Can Torres finally be more consistent again.

Taken from the BBC last night:
For the next 10 days, Fernando Torres is a reigning World Cup, European Championship, Champions League and Europa League winner. If we play football until the end of human civilisation, will the planets ever align for one man like that again?
 
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It was more his past history and who he was rather that what he could do. Some of his comments throughout the season didnt help. He has done a good job under tough circumstances but then he did inherit a team that had just won the champions league plus players like Hazard. He just needed to get them playing again which isnt always easy.

He inherited a team that were 6th in the league and just been embarassed in Europe, playing some really horrible football (all the while the team were playing for a manager that was apparently loved), yes it can be argued that his points tally in the league is pretty much identical to Di Matteo's, but the circumstances of the 2 managers is night and day.

Anyway, well done Chelsea and well done Rafa. Be very interesting to see how well Mourinho does (if it is him that comes in), people forget it was starting to go very wrong for him when he left.
 
Terry had to put his kit on for contractual and sponsorship reasons. PR/Marketing shots of club captain lifting trophy in a suit would look rubbish and not inspire many replica kit sales.

Burtons suit department on the other hand would have been delighted....
 
He inherited a team that were 6th in the league and just been embarassed in Europe, playing some really horrible football (all the while the team were playing for a manager that was apparently loved), yes it can be argued that his points tally in the league is pretty much identical to Di Matteo's, but the circumstances of the 2 managers is night and day.

Anyway, well done Chelsea and well done Rafa. Be very interesting to see how well Mourinho does (if it is him that comes in), people forget it was starting to go very wrong for him when he left.

Nah when he took over they had just gone out of Europe but were doing fine in the league.

They was 3rd and 3 points behind united.. 4 behind city who hadn't lost at that point. (12 games)

Well done Rafa.
 
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