UEFA Europa League Final Villarreal v Man Utd ** spoilers ** [Wednesday 26th May 2021]

[Psycho Sonny]

That is a bit of a mental stat for De Gea, if true, how unlucky must you be that a 1 in 3 chance (basic I know) you can never guess right? He's obviously a good shot stopper, so dive the right way, save it? Who's training him

Lol there is a lot more to saving a shot than picking the same direction as the shot.

If someone hits it with enough power and into certain areas you will never be able to save it even if you guessed the right direction, height and used all of your bodies ability to get in the air as fast as possible.

I'd like to see for example David Luiz's stats on penalties as he hits a knuckle ball top bin usually. No keeper is saving that.

 

[Converge]

Yeah I just didn’t like the complete lack of effort with DDG’s penalties. At least go for a complete dive in the wrong direction, rather than some pathetic hop.

 

[mmj_uk]

Meanwhile rashford has received over 70 incidents of racist abuse on social media.

Out of how many angry United fans? 1.1billion worldwide? I'm not condoning racism at all but it's kind of easy to hide behind racial abuse from a few idiots whenever you have a bad game.

Rashford needs to spend less time campaigning for free school meals and anti-racism campaigns and more time developing as a player.

 

[Sui]

De gea has saved 2 pens in prem still poor

Ahh sorry, I misread something I read whilst still in bed earlier

He hadn’t saved the last 25 penalties, which unfortunately for him has now accelerated to the last 36

 

[chroniclard]

Have you seen more abuse happening or are you just assuming that based on the media coverage. I mean its getting easier for more abuse to reach them because I could have dinner with my family and between mouthfuls post some abuse to anyone I want whereas in the past it would have been far more effort to be a *****.

The country is getting less racist and nasty for minorities and thats a fact. The ease of posting throwaway crap online has never been lower though. Kids have always done stupid stuff, it just used to be confined to their local area in the real world, now they can reach people across the world.

Well hence the post, it seems to be increasing, but is that an increased awareness/news travelling faster from the internet.

 

[chroniclard]

Out of how many angry United fans? 1.1billion worldwide? I'm not condoning racism at all but it's kind of easy to hide behind racial abuse from a few idiots whenever you have a bad game.

Rashford needs to spend less time campaigning for free school meals and anti-racism campaigns and more time developing as a player.

He can easily do both, players do have free time. Just woefully out of form.

 

[Andybtsn]

Lol there is a lot more to saving a shot than picking the same direction as the shot.

If someone hits it with enough power and into certain areas you will never be able to save it even if you guessed the right direction, height and used all of your bodies ability to get in the air as fast as possible.

I'd like to see for example David Luiz's stats on penalties as he hits a knuckle ball top bin usually. No keeper is saving that.

Obviously, like I said it was a basic way of looking at it, however you must be so very unlucky to get someone who is "knuckle balling" it every time. Most players can't ping it in the bottom/top corner every time so it's strange how going the right way wouldn't save a pen, especially after 25 taken at you. I mean I'm sure I'd save one of 25 pens against me!

 

[fez]

Well hence the post, it seems to be increasing, but is that an increased awareness/news travelling faster from the internet.

Think its just the hot topic. Same as when suddenly knife crime is rampant in London for a few months of the year before it miraculously disappears again until next year. I am also very suspicious when "racist abuse" or "hate speech" is given as the content when both terms are borderline meaningless in todays society. Racist abuse used to be being a racist and abusing someone for their race directly and overly. Now its used so often to describe anything negative directed towards POC whether there is any mention of race at all.

Perhaps all of these 70 occurrences are cut and dry cases but I have become suspicious to say the least. Either way, people should not take football so seriously and players should be able to kick a ball about without worrying about the dregs of society giving them crap.

 

[chroniclard]

Think its just the hot topic. Same as when suddenly knife crime is rampant in London for a few months of the year before it miraculously disappears again until next year. I am also very suspicious when "racist abuse" or "hate speech" is given as the content when both terms are borderline meaningless in todays society. Racist abuse used to be being a racist and abusing someone for their race directly and overly. Now its used so often to describe anything negative directed towards POC whether there is any mention of race at all.

Perhaps all of these 70 occurrences are cut and dry cases but I have become suspicious to say the least. Either way, people should not take football so seriously and players should be able to kick a ball about without worrying about the dregs of society giving them crap.

Yeah we dont really know what they are, however I pretty much believe Rashford.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1397693999872421888

https://twitter.com/x/status/1397709656240369665

 

[McBain]

Name and shame.

 

[fez]

Yeah we dont really know what they are, however I pretty much believe Rashford.

That first tweet is pretty heart breaking. Rashford was **** last night but poor guy.

 

[Alex h]

Ahh sorry, I misread something I read whilst still in bed earlier

He hadn’t saved the last 25 penalties, which unfortunately for him has now accelerated to the last 36

Yeh id have put money on he had saved more but id have lost henderson has better stats ollie aint got a clue

 

[Ayahuasca]

Hopefully, they are all found and prosecuted, a number of the accounts will be set up to look real though. You have to be incredibly stupid to DM someone racist abuse on your own, directly linkable account.

 

[200sols]

Most of the abuse seems to have come from the middle east, I doubt they care about accountability TBH.

 

[Calpol]

Out of how many angry United fans? 1.1billion worldwide? I'm not condoning racism at all but it's kind of easy to hide behind racial abuse from a few idiots whenever you have a bad game.

Rashford needs to spend less time campaigning for free school meals and anti-racism campaigns and more time developing as a player.

No he shouldn't
...and it's exactly this sort of thinking that helps perpetuate racism. Saying you are not condoning it is not enough. rant over

 

[turbot1984]

That's tough on Rashford. A lot of us Reds are disappointed today, but he's a great lad doing some great work.

 

[Converge]

That's tough on Rashford. A lot of us Reds are disappointed today, but he's a great lad doing some great work.

Just a shame all the great work is off the pitch.
But I can’t condone any of the behaviour he has to put up with at all though, disgusting. I can’t fathom taking the time or coming up with what they have to put up with from the worlds cretins in their inboxes and profiles.
I’d just not use social media if it was me, but that’s defeating the object I guess.

 

[Purdy]

I've got a feeling that Purdy wasn't being very sincere with his post

But the issue was that it came down to two keepers taking pens. Given the squads at each managers disposal, Utd should have been winning that game easily.

You mention not having game changing subs but the options available to Ole were better than what was available for Emery (from the start and the bench) and yet when the game was getting away from Villarreal, Emery made changes that brought them back into the game. It wasn't just tactical changes that Utd were crying out for but simply to have some fresh legs on the pitch. So many Utd players were dead on their feet towards the end of the 90 and Villarreal had half a side of fresh legs.

Kinda was, gets second, EL final and middling CL run previously. Club legend and backing of all his mates.

He’s just about ‘not bad enough’ to sack considering those factors but certainly not someone you’d expect to elevate them to reasonable success for their expenditure.

 

[fez]

He’s just about ‘not bad enough’ to sack considering those factors but certainly not someone you’d expect to elevate them to reasonable success for their expenditure.

I knew what you were getting at even if Baz didn't

Thats how I have always felt about Ole. Is he good enough to win anything of note? No. Will he ever be? Probably not. Is he a nice guy who won't rock the boat and will generally keep the players happy? Yes.

He will just coast on in mediocrity until he has a bad enough spell to get the sack or until we find some actual ambition and planning from somewhere.

 

[mysticsniper]

I knew what you were getting at even if Baz didn't

Thats how I have always felt about Ole. Is he good enough to win anything of note? No. Will he ever be? Probably not. Is he a nice guy who won't rock the boat and will generally keep the players happy? Yes.

He will just coast on in mediocrity until he has a bad enough spell to get the sack or until we find some actual ambition and planning from somewhere.

Accelerate the leaving of Woodward to now, there will be opportunity to start a fresh and have a complete clear out.

No better time to acquire Poch or Zizi