UFO footage released by US military
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What you're babbling about makes no sense. In your little world anyone that reckons they have seen a UFO is automatically a liar. Regardless if they seen something they could explain or not they're automatically a liar. Who are you to say they seen or didn't see something and call people liars?
Show me evidence of UFO's, then I will believe. Also stop being so rude, we are just having a conversation are we not?
You're the one making a blanket statement saying that if someone thinks they seen a UFO they're liars, no other possibility but outright lying.
I'm not arguing for or against their existence, I'm arguing that taking a position that if someone thinks they seen something they're automatically a liar is incredibly stupid.
People lie and make things up. Like I said several times, show me the evidence. People claim to see ghosts, do believe ghost are real? Same with UFO's. And yes I think people claiming to see UFO's are liars, or maybe mentally ill. Now trot along.
Straight from the horses ass, if you seen something you can't explain you're either a liar or mentally ill.
Straight from the horses ass, if you seen something you can't explain you're either a liar or mentally ill.
Yes.
Rude. What I have said is true. Show me otherwise and I'll accept your criticism.
No.
A few scenarios:
1) I see a light in the sky. I don't know what it is. I can't identify it. I have seen a UFO. Actually, it's a searchlight reflecting off clouds. But I don't know that. So I have seen a UFO. I am neither lying nor mentally ill.
2) I see a light in the sky. I don't know what it is. I can't identify it. I have seen a UFO. Actually, it's a military aircraft. But I don't know that (and the military won't tell people who don't need to know).
So I have seen a UFO. I am neither lying nor mentally ill.
3) During the night or when I am very tired, I see a light in the sky. I can't identify it. I have seen a UFO. Actually, it was a dream and I didn't know I was asleep or in a near-sleep state.
But I don't know that. So I have seen a UFO. I am neither lying nor mentally ill. Vivid hallucinations are normal when asleep or nearly asleep or in a very sleep-deprived state. This would also cover sightings of actual spaceships, sightings of aliens (who could also be humans in protective clothing on a military training exercise, for example) and even being abducted by aliens and being taken inside their spaceship.
4) Having been brought up with stories of UFOs, when I see a light in the sky I think it's a UFO. My brain creates false memories to fit this, because that's how human brains work. So I clearly remember seeing an actual spaceship, etc, because of false memories. I am neither lying nor mentally ill (false memories are normal function, not pathological).
Been reading @Angilion intelligently and patiently debate some rather interesting thoughts [?] posted by @BowdonUK (trying to avoid phrases like crush or dismantle but anyway), and then swaggering in comes Sliver who appears to have consumed too much Artois this evening.
Suggest you read #211 again.
It's not about providing you with evidence suggesting UFO's exist. It's about helping you understand people aren't automatically lying or mentally ill if they see something which they cannot identify.
Suggest you read #211 again.
It's not about providing you with evidence suggesting UFO's exist. It's about helping you understand people aren't automatically lying or mentally ill if they see something which they cannot identify.
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A UFO is an Unidentified Flying Object and I've seen at least 5 in my 60 years that I couldn't make out what they were.
Do I believe they were Aliens? - 100% no, I just didn't know what they were.
You are making the mistake that UFO=Aliens.
Thank you, was just about to write the same comment. The fact he cant even come to that simple conclusion raises alarm bells about his own "mental" capacity lol
A theory is a theory even if its unproven or can't be done. Neither of us know what technology and energy will be used in 100 years time. If you had never heard that chip fat can run a car engine you'd be condemning that as an unproven theory too.
It's obvious to me that you lack some vision in to the future and seem unable to comprehend that there will be things in the future that you will think is impossible now. As I said earlier do you think someone in 1918 imagined light could travel down a cable and carrying data to a computer? If you asked a person back then, maybe in the local tavern back then I'm sure 1918 version of you would be telling 1918 version of me its magic, its not a theory, its impossible.
I said that because both you and Tefal seem to only see the technology that we see today, and didn't appear to acknowledge places like area 51 and the likelihood that they are working on technology we've never seen before. If you are saying you do acknowledge that point then our opinions are moving closer together.
As far as your opinion of UFO sightings, I actually agree with almost everything you have said. I think the vast majority of sightings can be explained by everything you wrote.
I've not understood the tone you have taken towards me, as though I'm saying that aliens are flying around in aircraft. When my theory is that most of the objects people see that is unexplained (UFO) is most likely government advanced technology, which even in your answer you acknowledge is possible. I think that theory is the more rational, alongside mis-identified objects.
My theory of magnetic energy and also an attempt to answer why the military would keep technology hidden are just my thoughts. We both don't truly know how far any technology as gone because we're both not privy to that information. But you seem to seek a fixed answer. Because you personally haven't seen it (or anyone else on the forum) its immediately rubbished as magic. Why can't you leave the theory open? Why do you feel the need to clamp down on other peoples thoughts? I see this in religious threads too. Some people can't allow others to have thoughts unless it passes their approval.
I mentioned my theory of a future energy. What do you think is going to be the energy we use in the year 2118 ?
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Why should anyone show you anything?
What I would like to know is what speed must that object have been travelling to have descended ten miles in a matter of seconds to hover fifty feet above the surface of the sea before allegedly cloaking and descending in to the water with no conventional and obvious means of propulsion?
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