UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018
- Thread starter Glanza
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A year, but how many store actual USEFUL data, who knows. Some services record nothing except what time an IP/device connected to them. I'm not even sure what the penalties are if an ISP just doesn't bother. I'm yet to hear of anyone getting done for not logging stuff and there's so many excuses they can use to get off the hook (like oh dear they must have got corrupt, hackers deleted them, server broke, etc).
Even if they ban it, they can't really stop it completely because businesses need VPNs and encryption to operate. Plus it's not all that hard to get around restrictions by further obscuring traffic, even China can't stop it with their oppressive system.
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Soldato
You would have to be nuts to go giving porn sites your credit card details lol, will stick to using a VPN 
I don't think anyone's too worried about a teenager having a cheeky look, you're simply not going to stop them. It's more about preventing primary school aged kids seeing it. That and making it a little more difficult for younger teenagers.
There's two sep discussions from that really:
Should they be able to see that sort of content or not?
If no, how do you go about it blocking it?
I definitely think it's unhealthy for young children to see that kind of content (I think for some adults it's probably unhealthy too). Have friends who are primary (and secondary) school teachers and some of the things they overhear the boys talking about as though it was normal sexual behaviour... you'd never let your daughter out again. But I don't think blocking it outright is a cureall since education must play a part in it as you can't let the idea that some of this stuff is 'normal'.
I think porn in excess, even for adults, can be pretty unhealthy when it starts to become a substitute for real, meaningful, contact with the opposite sex. That goes for those in and out of relationships.
Saying there's no point blocking it as there's so much out there sounds a bit like the argument the pro gun ownership folks make when talking about gun control in the US. Not a great argument imo.
No way should anyone be made to sign into a pornsite with their credit card info though - that's just mental. Depending on how they implement this it won't drive porn into the underground though. Why would it? These steps are to stop kids looking at it, not adults.
Couple other points - 90% of parents barely know how to setup a password on their pcs, let alone setup child block filters.
90% or young kids won't have a clue how to setup a vpn or even what one is.
I've totally made up the above two %s. Sue me.
There's two sep discussions from that really:
Should they be able to see that sort of content or not?
If no, how do you go about it blocking it?
I definitely think it's unhealthy for young children to see that kind of content (I think for some adults it's probably unhealthy too). Have friends who are primary (and secondary) school teachers and some of the things they overhear the boys talking about as though it was normal sexual behaviour... you'd never let your daughter out again. But I don't think blocking it outright is a cureall since education must play a part in it as you can't let the idea that some of this stuff is 'normal'.
I think porn in excess, even for adults, can be pretty unhealthy when it starts to become a substitute for real, meaningful, contact with the opposite sex. That goes for those in and out of relationships.
Saying there's no point blocking it as there's so much out there sounds a bit like the argument the pro gun ownership folks make when talking about gun control in the US. Not a great argument imo.
No way should anyone be made to sign into a pornsite with their credit card info though - that's just mental. Depending on how they implement this it won't drive porn into the underground though. Why would it? These steps are to stop kids looking at it, not adults.
Couple other points - 90% of parents barely know how to setup a password on their pcs, let alone setup child block filters.
90% or young kids won't have a clue how to setup a vpn or even what one is.
I've totally made up the above two %s. Sue me.
Soldato
Would make more sense for them to make ISPs block it by default unless requested to unblock it like you do with mobile carriers. What a crock of **** making it that you would have to give your details over to porn sites.
The whole thing is ******* stupid, but their implementation is beyond retarded.
The whole thing is ******* stupid, but their implementation is beyond retarded.
Most already do block it by default. You have to log in and turn off the filter now.
Soldato
Enforce it so they have to and be done with it. What's the point of making you enter your details for every site? They don't have a clue what the **** they are doing.
Either way I'll just use a vpn, not playing their games.
I use IVPN, its located in Gibraltar and is very reasonably priced. Also masks ipv6 IIRC.
Except it's obviously "not" working - as everyone said it would t at the time - so now the government are trying a new tactic, which will also fail.
So the question is what is the next tactic May will try?
Soldato
Who actually pays for porn from 'porn sites' anyways?
Same people who voted Tory and have nothing to hide.
It starts with porn, but their ultimate goal is to completely remove everything anti establishment from our view.
Man of Honour
I agree. I also doubt that they are as ignorant and incompetent as they're pretending to be. I think they know exactly what they're doing. None of their domestic policies regarding the internet make sense for the purposes they state the policies are for, but they all make sense for the purpose of creating an increasingly authoritarian state.