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Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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change is coming to Russia, they cant stop it.
it could be the russians false flag to get the population riled up for world war 3.
It's difficult to say but i wouldn't put it past them.
They could however have special forces in there doing this which would be pretty awesome.
False flag is exactly what it feels like. these fires are increasing in frequency, and none of the targets are important enough to hurt Russia, but visible enough to notice. if it were Russian resistance or Ukraine I would have thought they would be taking credit “you thought your motherland was safe.. think again” kinda thing
I’m kinda expecting something big (e,g bomb attack on may 9th parade) to generate national outrage.. just surprised wests media haven’t cottoned on yet..
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Most are against oil or similar storage or transport infrastructure relevant to military operations - it could be a carefully orchestrated campaign to be visible and erode Russia's war efforts while attempting to avoid anything which would galvanise the Russian population against Ukraine.
If it is a false flag effort likewise I'd expect it to build up to something bigger around the 9th to try and galvanise public outrage against Ukraine.
Stalin wasn’t Russian.
Who’s dirty trick was it?
Born in Georgia but succeeded Lenin as Supreme Leader of the USSR. I would say Soviet dirty tricks.
In a thread about two ex Soviet Republics.... one doesn't get a free pass, when quoting examples from the Soviet era.
It's directly relevant. It's as equivalent an example for anything that Ukraine does or Georgia's war. As it's 'what They do'.
Pick anything post break up and it might be a better example.
Have to say I don't agree, unless they are talking something a bit different, with some of this:
Contrary to what is sometimes banded around Russia's commitment of nearly 200K troops to the Ukraine war didn't deplete their existing active personnel by nearly 200K. Russia used elements of many established divisions in BTGs sent to Ukraine but many of the more basic infantry groups were significantly fleshed out with new drafts, mercenaries, militia and so on. The depletion man power wise from their active military was probably more like 74K.
EDIT: I think the depletion of VDV, etc. though is quite significant - Russia will want those to spearhead any kind of action outside of their own territory, finding they aren't up to the task and taking significant impact to their combat strength is going to be crippling for any future wars - trying to roll in with heavy armour divisions, etc. leading is going to most likely end extremely badly.
Contrary to what is sometimes banded around Russia's commitment of nearly 200K troops to the Ukraine war didn't deplete their existing active personnel by nearly 200K. Russia used elements of many established divisions in BTGs sent to Ukraine but many of the more basic infantry groups were significantly fleshed out with new drafts, mercenaries, militia and so on. The depletion man power wise from their active military was probably more like 74K.
EDIT: I think the depletion of VDV, etc. though is quite significant - Russia will want those to spearhead any kind of action outside of their own territory, finding they aren't up to the task and taking significant impact to their combat strength is going to be crippling for any future wars - trying to roll in with heavy armour divisions, etc. leading is going to most likely end extremely badly.
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Oh come on, the Russian army can’t be that bad, I mean right now they’re proving to be the 2nd best army in Ukraine…
Well you see by Russian logic as we will be deep underwater there will be no rain and if there is no rain its a desert
. Just like the South Poll with all the snow but no rain is classed as a desert. If it doesnt make sense drink some Vodka until it does. I think that's how the Russian logic works.@Custor
Leonid Brezhnev born in Ukraine led the most violent attacks on soviet republics for expressing dissent. Notably Czechoslovakia sending in the tanks. He overthrew Kruschev while the latter was on holiday.
Are we to suppose that he did this because he was a Ukrainian or because he was a diehard communist leader. Like Stalin he probably forgot or made others forget his country of birth instead standing as the figurehead and voice of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
Note 'Union', that has been unilaterally disbanded and is no more.
Leonid Brezhnev born in Ukraine led the most violent attacks on soviet republics for expressing dissent. Notably Czechoslovakia sending in the tanks. He overthrew Kruschev while the latter was on holiday.
Are we to suppose that he did this because he was a Ukrainian or because he was a diehard communist leader. Like Stalin he probably forgot or made others forget his country of birth instead standing as the figurehead and voice of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
Note 'Union', that has been unilaterally disbanded and is no more.
Nope. That’s exactly the point.
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These empty threats are just a joke at this point. I can't believe the Russian public are even taking this seriously. It just shows how desperate the Kremlin is and how badly this campaign is going. I wouldn't be surprised if they actually announced they'd nuked a country at some point just to try and get a win with the public.
Well, the notion of a nuke creating a Tsunami seems like a bit of a reach, certainly one that supposedly floods the entirety of the UK & Ireland.
Lol idiots, who even buys this crap. The USA has exploded several nuclear bombs under water before and none of them caused a tsunami that would sink the British isles.
Luckily people have actually done the math and even the last Japanese tsunami (which only went 10 kilometres inland and even that was only in places where the land is flat) was caused by the energy equivalent to hundreds of Hiroshima bombs - so if you want to cause a tsunami that realistically goes all over the UK (needs to travel 500km in land) you'd be talking hundreds of thousands of kilo tons of energy needed to be honest this tsunami would go right around the globe and flood everywhere on the planet - not that such a bomb exists but Russians are really good are screwing themselves over to hurt an enemy
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Indeed. It's folly trying to pin right vs wrong. Nations and powers act accordingly in their own interests. It's impossible to predict the long term effects of such actions.Just seen this:
I'm not sure what's worse, that they would plan something like that or that they're already done so much evil I have little trouble believing it
This is true, however it shouldn't be forgotten that Putin's election in the first place came about as a direct result of western meddling in former Soviet states. They saw NATO invade Yugoslavia and carve it up into smaller weaker countries, they got scared for Russia's/their security and they elected a hardman who promised to make Russia strong again militarily as well as economically, if that hadn't happened they would probably have elected another Gorbachev or Yeltsin and have similar western relations as Ukraine. Obviously I'm not saying we shouldn't have invaded Yugoslavia as the people being exterminated weren't going to save themselves, but Putin's rise can directly be traced back to what was perceived as the west destabilising/dismantling former Soviet states.
Sadly unintended butterfly effects have always been a thing with global geopolitics
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